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SherrieL (Colorado)
Posts: 22
Posted:
We are voting on whether to keep our current management company or hire a new management company that would cost us less and would be more homeowner and board member friendly. I am of the understanding that unless you have a unanimous agreement from the directors to vote by e-mail, you have to have a meeting. (we have one director that is totally against the e-mail vote, all other members would prefer to vote by e-mail) My question is, since everyone is extremely busy with their lives can they attend per conference call and vote and/or can some send their vote by mail or ??? and upon receiving a vote form all voting members, even tho not in physical attendance be considered a quorum? What alternatives do I, as president, have to get this accomplished without having everyone phiscally attend?

Thanks for any and all help,
Sherrie
JP3 (Florida)
Posts: 11
Posted:
In Florida, it is illegal to have meeting by mail, or email, or for a BOD member to vote by proxy by mail or email. It violates Florida Statute 720.303 (2), which reads in part, "All meetings of the board must be open to all members except for meetings between the board and its attorney...". So, I suggest that you check your Colorado state statutes online for a similar statute.

As a former BOD and board President, I would also add that EVEN IF IT IS NOT ILLEGAL, it is a bad way to operate. Essentially you are asking if your baord can meet in secret. That may not be your intent, but since HOAs are corporations, whose members are stakeholders, you are suggesting that your corporate board of directors meet in secret. It's a bad idea IMHO.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Sherrie,

I've copied below a statutes from the CO Nonprofit Corp Act regarding "action taken w/o a meeting". Because CO is an open meeting law state which means ALL meetings of the assn and BOD are to be open to the members, an action taken w/o a meeting could be in violation of the law. However, the HOA statutes also state several exceptions for an executive session one of which is to ". . .discuss matters pertaining tot he managing agent's contract. . .". Therefore since the reason for this meeting can be discussed in executive session I see no reason why the BOD cannot use the action w/o meeting.

In the future the BOD must remember that they are bound by the state laws. All board meetings must be conducted in the open -- voting by mail or by email cannot be undertaken. Attending board meetings is one of the duties of a board member. The monthly board meetings should take place the same day of the same week of the month -- every month. A conference call is acceptable only if everyone present at the meeting can hear both sides of the conversation.

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7-128-202. Action without meeting.

(1) Unless otherwise provided in the bylaws, any action required or permitted by articles 121 to 137 of this title to be taken at a board of directors' meeting may be taken without a meeting if notice is transmitted in writing to each member of the board and each member of the board by the time stated in the notice:
(a) Votes in writing for such action; or
(b) (I) Votes in writing against such action, abstains in writing from voting, or fails to respond or vote; and
(II) Fails to demand in writing that action not be taken without a meeting.
(2) The notice required by subsection (1) of this section shall state:
(a) The action to be taken;
(b) The time by which a director must respond;
(c) That failure to respond by the time stated in the notice will have the same effect as abstaining in writing by the time stated in the notice and failing to demand in writing by the time stated in the notice that action not be taken without a meeting; and
(d) Any other matters the nonprofit corporation determines to include.
(3) Action is taken under this section only if, at the end of the time stated in the notice transmitted pursuant to subsection (1) of this section:
(a) The affirmative votes in writing for such action received by the nonprofit corporation and not revoked pursuant to subsection (5) of this section equal or exceed the minimum number of votes that would be necessary to take such action at a meeting at which all of the directors then in office were present and voted; and
(b) The nonprofit corporation has not received a written demand by a director that such action not be taken without a meeting other than a demand that has been revoked pursuant to subsection (5) of this section.
(4) A director's right to demand that action not be taken without a meeting shall be deemed to have been waived unless the nonprofit corporation receives such demand from the director in writing by the time stated in the notice transmitted pursuant to subsection (1) of this section and such demand has not been revoked pursuant to subsection (5) of this section.
(5) Any director who in writing has voted, abstained, or demanded action not be taken without a meeting pursuant to this section may revoke such vote, abstention, or demand in writing received by the nonprofit corporation by the time stated in the notice transmitted pursuant to subsection (1) of this section.
(6) Unless the notice transmitted pursuant to subsection (1) of this section states a different effective date, action taken pursuant to this section shall be effective at the end of the time stated in the notice transmitted pursuant to subsection (1) of this section.
(7) A writing by a director under this section shall be in a form sufficient to inform the nonprofit corporation of the identity of the director, the vote, abstention, demand, or revocation of the director, and the proposed action to which such vote, abstention, demand, or revocation relates. Unless otherwise provided by the bylaws, all communications under this section may be transmitted or received by the nonprofit corporation by electronically transmitted facsimile, e-mail, or other form of wire or wireless communication. For purposes of this section, communications to the nonprofit corporation are not effective until received.
(8) Action taken pursuant to this section has the same effect as action taken at a meeting of directors and may be described as such in any document.
(9) All writings made pursuant to this section shall be filed with the minutes of the meetings of the board of directors.

SherrieL (Colorado)
Posts: 22
Posted:
Actually, I would prefer to have all the home owners attend. The home owners do not like the current management company. The old board and the current management company was dictating and doing everything in secret. They were going to put in a T-Mobile tower in the middle of our common ground grass area, they paid an attorney to tell them they could do this with out contacting the homeowners. We the homeowners were told it was going to happen and that there was nothing we could do about it. We gathered forces among ourselves, the homeowners, fought it and won! That was 3 years ago. Since then we (the homeowners) have gotten in a few board members that actually represent the HOA owners. Therefore the constant battle...

I am told the vote has to be unanimous by the board in order to vote in a new management company, which won't happen. In reading your replys... would my best answer to my delima be... set up the special meeting with the board and make sure all the homeowners know about it, so they can attend, if they so choose? Can I set it up so they can vote on this issue?

Our bylaws need up dated to comply fully with Senate bill 100 etc. I have been working on that also, but I am constantly meeting opposition with the management and old board members. Which leads to another question, concerning the bylaws being updated. With my busy schedule, it is taking me forever to get done, is there another inexpensive way to have them updated, what have other HOA's done to get them updated and implemented?

Thanks for ALL your help,
Sherrie
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Sherrie, following is from the Bylaws of a Colorado HOA which complies with CCIOA:

6.7 Action Taken Without a Meeting.
The Directors shall have the right to take any action in the absence of a meeting which they could take at a meeting if a notice stating the action to be taken and the time by which a Director must respond is transmitted in writing or via electronic transmission to each member of the Board and each Director, by the time stated, votes for or against, or abstains or fails to respond provided that no Director demands the action not be taken without a meeting. Any action so approved shall have the same effect as though taken at a meeting of the Directors. Such actions shall be recorded in the minutes of the next Board meeting.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Sherrie,

First of all, the members of the assn have no say in whether the mgmt co's contract should be terminated or not. The mgmt co contracts with the BOD, not the members.

Secondly, do your docs state a unanimous vote of the BOD is required to change mgmt company's? Frankly I would find this hard to believe, usually a majority vote is required for all votes of the BOD.

Lastly, since CO has an open meeting law, proper notice of all meetings of the board is a requirement. However if it's impossible to attain a quorum of the board then perhaps the "action w/o a meeting" is the way to go. Otherwise just wait until the next regularly scheduled board meeting to discuss this issue. If any members of the assn are interested in hearing this topic discussed they will be in attendance. If "secret" meetings of the board are being held then the BOD is in violation of state law and should be held accountable.

With regard to the T-mobile tower: my BOD was approached by Verizon and offered a $10,000/mo rental fee to install such a tower. The deal fell through but b/4 making a decision, the BOD was going to send a letter to all homeowners who were in close proximity to the tower asking their opinion. The tower would have been in sight from my back yard and would have blocked my mountain view. I objected strongly and like to think the other homeowners would have too. IMO, these towers have no place in a residential community. I've since learned that my city has placed certain restrictions on these towers which may have precluded my assn from allowing the installation.

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