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ArthurD (Virginia)
Posts: 5
Posted:
A year ago, our Board of Directors of our HOA initiated the distribution of Draft minutes of the Board meetings, issued right before the next Board meeting. The purpose was so that residents would have an opportunnity to review what happened at the last Board meeting right before the next meeting where those minutes would then be approved. Draft minutes are rarely if ever modified. It has been suggested that it is not legal to distribute the Draft minutes although they are available at anytime in the HOA office. I contend that there is no illegality here as long as the minutes are identified as Draft. What is your consensus?
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Arthur, you are correct. We provide drafts of Board meeting minutes within 24 hour of the meeting via email. Board members are requested to provide additions and corrections and they are approved at the next Board meeting - usually never read aloud at the meeting.
CharlesW1 (Georgia)
Posts: 826
Posted:
ArthurD,

I wish I could give you better advice, but I’m not all that familiar with the “do’s and “do not's” of an HOA.
Being a recently elected vice president of my HOA, I would not release these or any meeting minutes to members prior to them being approved. Maybe I’m wrong if thinking this way.
Let’s say that everyone you have emailed these to fully understand that they are draft minutes. (rough drafts so to speak, notes). What would be the reason for having the BOD approve the minutes at all? I thought the board approved the minutes so that if later they need to remember any of the topics discussed, approved and not approved, the board would have written proof if needed Or, if needed for any legal proceedings.
I am especially thankful for such great minutes taken prior to me being elected my position. I have literally read month’s worth of previously approved minutes.
RogerB is a very knowledgeable individual. I have learned a lot from the advice and suggestion he has given to me and others on previously written posts. I appreciate his suggestions and HOA knowledge but I would have to disagree with him on this I am aware that a member can view these minutes at anytime. Which they should if they (the members) are interested in knowing what is being discussed at their HOA board meetings. I think it is a great to be so prompt in emailing draft minutes to selective members of the association (those who have asked for them) but, they haven’t been approved.
I maybe wrong in my thinking, If I am, I’m sure I’ll be corrected. “If” it is alright to have members view these minutes prior to approval, what is the rationale for approving them at all?

Good post, I personally thank you. I will learn a lot from the responses you get from this post.

Chuck W.


Charles E. Wafer Jr.
DonN (Michigan)
Posts: 357
Posted:
ArthurD

I strongly support the advice from RogerB including the release of the draft minutes ASAP following the board meeting. Each page of the draft minutes should clearly be labeled draft, perhaps by watermark. Such pages can be easily converted to pdf files for transmission by email.

The draft minutes should be made available to members at the same time through email distribution or available for inspection at the POA office. This serves an important function of immediately informing members of the actions taken. It is also appropriate to post the draft minutes on the POA website.

Members should be encouraged to also provide their comments and corrections if they attended the meeting. When members who have attended the meeting read the minutes, they should conclude "Yes, that is the meeting I attended."

SetenaN (Georgia)
Posts: 23
Posted:
So we SHOULD be sending out minutes to everyone right after the board meeting? We always made it available to people if they asked. We told them that if they wanted a copy of them we would have no problem sending them at that time. We did that to save on money. Is this incorrect?
DonN (Michigan)
Posts: 357
Posted:
SetenaN

My recommendation for good policy is to make the draft minutes available ASAP following the board meeting to members for inspection and to post the minutes as a pdf file on the POA website. They could be sent by email to a distribution list of members who have requested such. The good policy is to provide the draft minutes through all of the low-cost methods available.

There is a separate question about mailing paper copies to all members or to members who so request. It my view, it is appropriate to charge the requesting member an annual fee for the mailing service.

GeraldT1 (<Not Specified>)
Posts: 519
Posted:
ArthurD,

Procedurally minutes are made available to owners after they are approved. Therefore approved minutes should be posted and or available soon after, and in between open meetings.

I would not distribute a draft of minutes to owners in advance of board approval. I would press the minute taker to get the Board the minutes sooner than right before the open meeting.

I understand the intent of providing a draft to owners, think it's wonderful your HOA Board shares information. However, I would approve the minutes, give a brief overview of activities at the last Board meeting, and inform the owners that the approved minutes will be available, when and where.

GeraldT1
NNJ

RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Posted By GeraldT1 on 11/06/2006 7:34 AM I would not distribute a draft of minutes to owners in advance of board approval.

Gerald, do you stand by this statement when Board meetings are quarterly and the members once a year?

GeraldT1 (<Not Specified>)
Posts: 519
Posted:
Roger,

I stand by my statement. Please explain why you think the procedure needs to change if board meetings are quarterly and there's one meeting with members once a year? Perhaps there is something I've overlooked?

A good board could always provide owners approved minutes of working sessions to inform them in the interims. Or quarterly updates.

I do not think it's appropriate that a draft of minutes be distributed outside of the board/management arena prior to minutes being approved. Owners always retain the right to know. If they so desire, they can put their requests in writing to the MC or Board and see what's going on.

GeraldT1
NNJ

RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Posted By GeraldT1 on 11/08/2006 8:17 AM

Roger,
Please explain why you think the procedure needs to change if board meetings are quarterly and there's one meeting with members once a year? Perhaps there is something I've overlooked?

Providing a draft of minutes gives prompt information. Most people do not want to receive information after it is "too late" - after action has been completed or when it is out-of-date. For example, when would you like to know the results of yesterday's election - today, next quarter (February), or next year (November)?

GeraldT1 (<Not Specified>)
Posts: 519
Posted:
RogerB,

There is nothing I have overlooked in the validity of my statement and opinion. IMO, the method to provide prompt information is a multitude of options other than providing a draft of minutes IMO, the method is to approve minutes promptly, hold adequate meetings to accomplish this, provide minutes promptly.

If people want to receive more timely information than quarterly or annually, they should press the board to hold more open meetings or more updates, join the board, join a committee, etc.

A draft connotes that it is a working copy and subject to revisions. How do you explain revisions to draft documents published to the community? IMO, that opens up a huge can of worms. IMO, it's better to explore the multitude of options a board can excersise to inform their constituants.

GeraldT1
NNJ

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