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DougG1 (Arizona)
Posts: 2
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I know this audience may be a tad biased, but if all who read this had an option to own either a Condo or Townhouse controlled by an HOA (Home Owners Association) or to own a detached single family home without an HOA, which would you choose? My wife and I have just sold a property and after reading all the woes here, I am not sure we should not reconsider buying another condo. Just curious. Doug
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
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detached without an HOA.

But then again, I have never lived in an HOA that provided any real amenities, so you are asking ME if i would rather live in this home with some rules and a few bucks a month payment, or without any rules and no money being paid... so my answer is rather biased that direction.
SureshD
Posts: 268
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Condos and TH have the burden of sharing common physical elements (roofs, walls, etc.). If your neighbor has a leak or other structural 'trauma' it will likely effect you as well. Then there are noise, odors and other issues to consider.

Single family homes have more autonomy with or without an HOA. No HOA and you could end up living next to a purple house with 6 cars out front.

Read the docs. associated with any perspectvie HOA home purchases to see if you can live within the rules and then ask some residents how they feel about the 'level' governance. Some are more tolerant (strict) that others.

Tour the 'hood on different days and times to see the various conditions of activity and quality of life before deciding.
hoatalk (California)
Posts: 603
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Don't mix condos/town homes and single family homes. They are completely different. Condos/town homes by their nature have more need for rules and governance.

As to whether or not to buy in a HOA, it's a very personal preference. If you care how the appearance of your neighbor's home affects your home value and in general your mood about where you live, then only the HOA community gives you any real chance to get some level of upkeep/nice looking properties enforced.

Yes, there are city codes that govern non-HOA communities and this may help with junk cars in the yard, etc, but it won't help with general appearance standards like not having peeling paint, broken shutters, wild colors, weedy yards, rusted chain link fence, etc. If those things don't bother you, then non-HOA is OK for you. If they do bother you, then consider a HOA.

Does a HOA prevent all those problems? Of course not. The HOA is run by volunteers and each will have it's own level of governance. But at least the rules are there and you have the opportunity to get involved yourself to make it better. You won't have that in the non-HOA community.

The HOA community may also offer amenities that non-HOA communities won't, like private green areas/parks, private walking trails, tennis, pools, club house, etc. If you want those things, then they likely require a HOA to have them.

Also, don't be discouraged by the problems you read about here. People come here to solve problems so when you read the site you see mostly......problems
That doesn't mean HOAs are full of issues and you should avoid them.

Again, it's just your personal preference of the kind of community you want.

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RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
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Posted By DougG1 on 07/08/2010 5:07 PM
I know this audience may be a tad biased, but if all who read this had an option to own either a Condo or Townhouse controlled by an HOA (Home Owners Association) or to own a detached single family home without an HOA, which would you choose? My wife and I have just sold a property and after reading all the woes here, I am not sure we should not reconsider buying another condo. Just curious. Doug

None of the above. I prefer a single family home in a Covenant Controlled cummunity with a well run HOA.
NancyH6 (Illinois)
Posts: 2
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Posted By DougG1 on 07/08/2010 5:07 PM
I know this audience may be a tad biased, but if all who read this had an option to own either a Condo or Townhouse controlled by an HOA (Home Owners Association) or to own a detached single family home without an HOA, which would you choose? My wife and I have just sold a property and after reading all the woes here, I am not sure we should not reconsider buying another condo. Just curious. Doug

Right now I have to say I would never consider buying another condo, or a townhouse in an HOA. I got myself into my current situation by failing to understand that (a) there are a shockingly high number of folks who don't honor (or even understand) their financial commitments, and (b) I would end up picking up the financial slack for these people in my condo building. Never again.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
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Doug,

If I had my preference I would not buy into an HOA again. I live in N. Glendale and there are very few non-HOA communities, so the options are very limited.

I have always said I will never buy a condo; the main reason being the fact that the assessments are usually very high. The AZ condo statutes do not place a limit on an assessment increase as does the planned community statutes. There are several big ticket maint issues (roofs, roads, painting buildings, etc) that may warrant a special assessment and/or an incr. in assessments. Plus the fact that there are usually parking (usually not enough spaces; assigned spaces) and noise (noisy neighbors living upstairs, downstairs, next door) problems that do not occur in a community of single family homes.
DeborahB6 (New York)
Posts: 34
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Doug,

There is probably no perfect living style, but if I were to do it again I would consider the type of HOA I was moving into. Some HOA’s maintain the exterior of the houses (roofs, siding, etc.) along with grounds maintenance (landscaping, roadways, etc.). Others take responsibility only for grounds maintenance, but may have guidelines for how the owners are expected to maintain the exterior of their individual homes. The more maintenance provided, the less control you may have as an individual homeowner. You have to decide what is right for you and your lifestyle. I would suggest that you read the governing documents carefully before you buy. If monthly fees and special assessments are shared equally by the owners, rather than being dependent on the size the unit purchased, you may get the greatest value by buying a bigger unit. Also, buy a unit in a good location for resale purposes.

Some Associations function very well because of committed Board members who understand their responsibilities and put the community first. You see evidence on this website of people who do just that! Keep in mind that there are no guarantees things will always run smoothly, as Board members change. Should you decide to move into a community living situation, you would be wise to learn about HOA governance and get involved by attending meetings, joining committees, etc. Homeowners with special talents and backgrounds can be wonderful assets to their community!

Best of luck!

Deborah

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