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BobR8 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1
Posted:
I rent a townhome in Concord, NC. I signed my lease agreement in January, 2010.

The owner of my property has hired a management company to oversee the maintenance, collect my monthly rent, etc.

I pay no monthly water bill, because water, sewer, trash and access to the community poolare all tied into the HOA fee, paid by the owner of the property.

I had a difficult time when I first moved in getting the HOA maintenance to turn my water service on, due to the fact that the owner was delinquent in his HOA dues. Since then, I have been receiving letters from attorneys offices, the HOA management company, as well as the HOA itself. I have forwarded all of these letters to the the company whom I leased from.

I have called numerous times, after receiving letters threatening to shut off my water service due to lack of payment of HOA dues, as well as my wife and children being denied access to the community pool.

A hearing was conducted by the HOA a few days ago, and my leasing company never sent a representative. My water service is supposed to be turned off tomorrow.

I am currently in Germany, on temporary duty with the US Air Force. My wife is home and in hysterics. I have notified my Judge Advocate General's office to assist me in this matter, but due to the fact that I am in a time zone 6 hours ahead of my home base, I don't know if I can expect a quick answer to appease my wife.

What should I do? Of course my leasing company is acting like this is the first that they have heard about this matter, and they will 'get right on it' (which I've been hearing the past 6 months). I know that this issue falls on the actual owner of the property, rather than the leasing company, but what can I do to take action? I am stuck, and I have no way of helping my family because I'm 4000 miles away.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
I am so sorry to hear about your situation. Sadly, this sort of thing is happening a lot these days - owners don't pay maintenance fees and then the HOA has no choice but to take action to compel him/her/them to pay up. Unfortunately, there are times (like this) when renters who ARE paying their fees every month get caught in the middle.

Years ago I worked with some folks at Fort Benjamin Harrison here in Indy and they were in some sort of program that assisted servicemen and women and their families in situations like this - see if there's something similar in the Concord area. You might also be able to get help from Legal Aid or a consumer protection office (try the state's attorney general office) It seems to me you have grounds to file a lawsuit against the homeowner to break the lease, get your deposit back (if you paid one) and maybe even damages to pay for moving expenses, a deposit for a new place, etc. Between your lawsuit and the HOA also going after this guy, that may compel him to pay up.

The HOA has a contractural relationship with the homeowner, not you, so if the homeowner doesn't pay fees, the HOA can't go against you because it's not a party to your rental agreement. It would be the same if a tenant were to break a HOA rule - ultimately, the homeowner would be held responsible because it's his/her unit. So it may seem the HOA is being unfair to you, but it appears they're doing what they must to collect the fees.

That said, as a board member, I wouldn't have had the water shut off, but would have filed a lawsuit against the homeowner to have the rent garnished - instead of paying the homeowner, you would pay the association your rent and the amount would be applied to the unpaid amount (no, the rent wouldn't increase, because once again, that agreement was between you and the homeowner). It's interesting how some homeowners would straighten up and fly right when the rent checks get intercepted.

At this point, you and your wife will have to file suit against the homeowner - he or she provided the unit, which should be in livable condition (have running water, trash pickup and such). Between lawsuits filed by you and the HOA, that may compel him to pay up or at least get you out of the lease agreement.

Thanks for your sacrifice to keep our nation safe and good luck to you!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Its likely the owner is being foreclosed on as well as him not paying the HOA dues. You "can" sue the owner for violating the lease, but if he is in foreclosure, you may be on a long list of creditors. It may be a waste of time. He is probably having money problems.

Call the leasing company. Its possible the owner can catch up with his dues and keep your unit from being shut off, but I'm willing to bet "no"

You need to find another house. This one is going under.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Bottom line..... when homeowners get foreclosed, renters suffer.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Bob,

Since you're in Germany, perhaps your wife could check out the state's landlord tenant laws. It's seems to me you may have a claim against your landlord. In the meantime I would suggest she call the attorney or HOA management co and explain to them that the owner is resp. for paying the HOA fees and it's not fair to punish you for his irresponsibility. She may also want to contact your landlord to find out if he will reduce your rent in the amount of the HOA fee then you can pay the fee yourself.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
If you haven't paid July's rent I would see about putting the rent in escrow with the court until the HOA fee's are paid. You can't just withhold it but there is a legal way to do this which should have been done months ago. If you come to some type of deal with the leasing company (who must be getting paid) or the landlord make sure it is in writing. Otherwise if it gets in court it becomes he said /she said and you could come out on the loosing end.

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