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JoanneD1 (Arizona)
Posts: 447
Posted:
By accident,I recently discovered that in the state of Arizona, ANY PROPERTY THAT IS RENTED MUST BE REGISTERED WITH THE ASSESSORS OFFICE!People I've talked to who had NO IDEA of this revised state statute, ARS33-1902.It does not matter how long the property is rented,nor does it matter if it is in an HOA or single family home.There are stiff fines and penalties.My HOA recently adopted a requirement that "A copy of rental registration" must be submitted in order for the rental application to be approved.Because of the horrid real estate conditions here,many homeowners who have "strategically" defaulted on mortgages are looking for nice rental communities.We do not want to be their "safe Haven" so to speak!We are on our 4th foreclosure & this is a community whose prices ranged from 800K-1.4mil in the peak.Were these inflated,somewhat but now we are down to 450000-below a million!Our homes are being purchased by investors who could care less about the community.We have also incorporated a rule that when escrow is closed,the home CANNOT be rented for one year.It is one's MORAL OBLIGATION to register a rental property.How's your moral compass these days?I am contacting the local HOA Manager group to alert them. Our state & many other could certainly use the extra revenue that is generated from the rental taxation that should be collected from every owner!
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Hi Joanne,

The reason the Co Assessor's Ofc must be notified is because the prop tax rate is almost double for a rental as it is for a home that is occupied by the owner. I found this out over 20 yrs ago when we purchased our first home in AZ. I was shocked when we received our first prop tax bill. Upon questioning the amount I was told it had been a rental and they had failed to list it as owner occupied when we purchased it. BTW, Glendale also has a requirement that the owner of rented property must obtain a city business license.
RZ (Arizona)
Posts: 51
Posted:
This stick it to the landlord approach is a pet peeve of mine. I currently own four rentals in Arizona HOA managed communities. I have owned as many as nine in the past.

When I buy a place, I repair, landscape and make capital improvements before I rent. When I find tenants, I do credit and background checks. In the lease I also make them responsible for any fines levies by the HOA- this way they have an incentive to follow the community rules.

When I buy a unit, initially the neighbors see me and give me the howdy-do thing! When they find out I plan to rent it, I become a second class owner.

People who rent are held to higher standard that owners, no doubt. We pay our dues on time and go out of our way to keep the HOA’s happy. We pay taxes (as Mary said, sometimes more than our share) and keep homes that might otherwise be vacant, lived in. It’s not our fault the economy is what it is. My experience is that for every lazy landlord in a given community, you have an equal amount of old timers who think the rules don’t apply to them.

What people may forget is that homes in age and rental restricted areas are much harder to sell. Also, what if your home has lost value and you want to wait a while to sell it? The idea of no rentals may sound good until the need to move arises, then it is a different story.
JoanneD1 (Arizona)
Posts: 447
Posted:
There are all sorts of landlords and investors! This may be a pet peeve of some, but what is MUCH more disturbing is the landlord or the tenant that doesn't give a rip who leases to some real skumbags and we had that recent experience....and a realtor no less who broke every rule. Once you have bad apples living in your community, it is a tremendous struggle to get them out! The HOA did not set up the tax base, the government did! HOA's do have a responsibity to be in complaince with the state statutes and I am encouraging the local newspaper to do an article to bring more public awareness to the issue. We have had purchases by out of state investors who don't even come to see the property! We do not want to be a revolving door community! We are a neighborhood.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
RZ,

The reason HOAs are requiring rental agreements is because not all landlords operate as you do. Many don't even bother to inform the HOA of their new mailing address when they decide to rent out their home. And most don't bother to inform their tenants of the rules they must abide by and the consequences if they don't.

With regard to paying higher property taxes, the only thing I can figure out is because renting your property is considered a business and businesses are always taxed higher than private citizens. But, double the rate has always seemed quite excessive to me.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
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We have had purchases by out of state investors who don't even come to see the property! We do not want to be a revolving door community! We are a neighborhood.


You cant control the economy.

If people keep loosing jobs, you dont allow rentals/investors, your community will look much, much different. Think of boarded up broken windows, un-cut lawn, and a bank who refuses to take title.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
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RZ, my guess is that you haven't seen the thread that ChungYing started on this forum!

He is the Worst Nightmare landlord. It is for those types that the regulations exist.

MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
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Posted By MaryA1 on 06/26/2010 8:27 AM
But, double the rate has always seemed quite excessive to me.

Mary, I'll have to agree with you on this one! That seems a little steep. I'm a commissioner on the board of our municipality's vacant property commission. Vacant properties are taxed at triplethe rate of occupied properties. Double the rate for rental property then seems to be a tad punitive, considering. At least to me.
JoanneD1 (Arizona)
Posts: 447
Posted:
It is only because we have a 24/7 manned gate that gives us a tip off as to anyone coming onto the property and the purpose for which they enter.Of course, where there is a will, there is a way.We passed a No Trespassing rule.Since we have seasonal owners,and in an attempt to snag unauthorized renters, we require that the owner be called at the home's location....not off site to give permission for the visitor to enter.We issue temporary hang tags once permission is granted.We even had the Scottsdale Police here and it was only because we had the new rule and signs posted that were were able to keep the unauthorized renter's cars off the property, but then the morons entered the property from the golf course side.The situation finally resolved when the renter realized that we might report her to the Az Board of Realtors.She did an under the table lease and we were not standing for it!
JoanneD1 (Arizona)
Posts: 447
Posted:
Just another comment about renters(and not all renters)...one of our Board members is a top agent in the area & she gets many calls from people looking for rentals.Recently she got a call from a woman who was looking for a long term rental and when asked why, she responded that she was walking away from TWO properties that were upside down. She said she had good income and cash, but had gotten an attorney & was short selling and knew her credit would be messed up for a few years! Who do you think is paying for this lack or morality,,,the bank or the taxpayers.Call me a snob, but I prefer not to reside with people with this lack of inetgrity! We maintain the exterior of vacant units until they sell.If there are expenses, we just pass them onto the bank when they take ownership. HOA's must have strength and backbone or they will loose all the battles and the war!

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