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CarolL3 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
In State of Florida are there any condo rules that govern gender discrimination regarding the application of condo rules. For example a MALE RENTER had a leak and the building shut off the air conditioning and allowed him to have workers until 2AM with a truck parked directly under resident windows. A FEMALE OWNER had a leak and the Board refused to turn off the water or air conditioning and chased the contractors away because they were "park in the wrong parking spot." This is just one example. Any help in this matter regarding legal options would be appreciated.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Gender discrimination in this case (and likely any other circumstance you can share) is less likely than personality conflict.

I'm guessing there is either a personal relationship between the male resident and/or his vendor and one of the board members or PM and no personal relationship (or, conversely) a rocky personal relationship between the female resident, her vendor and one of the board members and/or PM.

CarolL3 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Ok, so regardless of a personal relationship ...is it not illegal for the exact same situation to be handled in detriment to one resident over another. Costing extra monies and extra damage to one resident over another?
BonnieE (Illinois)
Posts: 338
Posted:
Hi Carol,

A little more info would be helpful.

How do you know the 2 situations you described were exactly the same? How do you know that this statement you made is true:

"the exact same situation to be handled in detriment to one resident over another. Costing extra monies and extra damage to one resident over another"

Could there have been extenuating circumstances that the male resident had for which the Board gave a waiver for specific condo rules?

Our Board has given waivers to certain rules under specific circumstances. Over the years we have had homeowners tell us that β€œso and so was allowed to do such and such, so why can’t I” when told they could not do some action or needed to do it differently.

Thanks.
Bonnie
CarolL3 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
HI Bonnie
I AM the female owner. I had a pipe break and my ceiling fell in. I had gushing water coming out of my ceiling and all the board/superintendent did was to tape a piece of metal siding to my pipe and my ladder in my bathtub to channel the water. They refused to shut the air conditioning off.
When the contractors came to do the drywall work on my ceiling the first tiem they did not park in the designated contractor parking but in a guest spot near the freight elevator. The Board member banged and cursed and screamed so much that the contractors left without finishing the job--even though I had to pay them for work left undone. The board refused to pay to fix the pipe or give me any money because they chased away the contractors. All of the money to fix and re-fix the problem came out of my pocket.

Yesterday at 3pm evidently there was a leak in one apartment inhabited by a renter. They shut the AC in the whole building and they allowed the renter to wait until 10pm at night to begin work with contractors to extract the water. They worked loudly all night until 2AM--parked under my window I might add --not in a real parking spot.

So again I ask, is there any law in Florida that governs how situations are handled to the detriment of one resident to another?
CarolL3 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
HI Bonnie
I AM the female owner. I had a pipe break and my ceiling fell in. I had gushing water coming out of my ceiling and all the board/superintendent did was to tape a piece of metal siding to my pipe and my ladder in my bathtub to channel the water. They refused to shut the air conditioning off.
When the contractors came to do the drywall work on my ceiling the first time they did not park in the designated contractor parking but in a guest spot near the freight elevator. The Board member banged and cursed and screamed so much that the contractors left without finishing the job--even though I had to pay them for work left undone. The board refused to pay to fix the pipe or give me any money because they chased away the contractors. All of the money to fix and re-fix the problem came out of my pocket.

Yesterday at 3pm evidently there was a leak in one apartment inhabited by a renter. They shut the AC in the whole building and they allowed the renter to wait until 10pm at night to begin work with contractors to extract the water. They worked loudly all night until 2AM--parked under my window I might add --not in a real parking spot.

So again I ask, is there any law in Florida that governs how situations are handled to the detriment of one resident to another?
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
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Posted By CarolL3 on 06/24/2010 10:41 AM

So again I ask, is there any law in Florida that governs how situations are handled to the detriment of one resident to another?

Your phrasing leaves a lot to be desired.

There may be something that deals with consistent treatment, but your attempt to shoehorn this into gender discrimination is fishing off the wrong pier.

Chances are you won't get very far whining about that one.

In fact, I doubt you'll get very far with any complaint.

Was it unfair? Probably.

But you may need to pursue this through small claims, however, it would probably be in your best interests to pursue it on the basis of your own situation was handled in relation to a standard process, not based on how one other situation was handled. In other words, how are similar situations handled on the whole? What is the standard within the community? Not necessarily a one-to-one comparison, but a one-to-many, which indicates the standard.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Carol,

There are way too many unknowns in your relaying of the events. You are only telling us what you perceived as special treatment to the other person's unit with a leak. Maybe no one could find a repair person until 10 pm. Maybe the leak was much more severe that they shut the water off. Is there a possibility that you don't know the whole story? Any chance that you have been less than patient with someone who calls in for repair service?

As for your question, even if there is a "LAW" as you say, what would you do? Sueing is going to cost you a whole lot of money and a Judge hearing that you are mad because some repair guy parked under your unit in a no parking spot would not get you very far.
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
I hate to say this but I think Michelle hit the nail on it's head.

This sounds like some situation where personalities handled things differently and that is caused when you have people involved.

IMO no two situations are alike different people, different problems, differenc locations, different times of day and all can be handled as those involved see fit.

Perhaps the OP's leak was not as bad, perhaps so situation prefvented them from shutting off the water. Perhaps she dealt with a horse's a__. Not saying that can't happen. But I doubt anyone seriously thought this through and decided to treat her in some inferior way because she was a woman.

Sometimes things happen that you don't need and they can't be addressed in the way YOU think they should be WHEN YOU think they should be addressed. That's life.

Does she have the right to be annoyed? Certainly

Should she have been treated in the same manner under the exact same conditions? Certainly

As to now using the legal system to get "justice"? I am sure there is an attorney out there ready to sue anyone and everyone. Will you get a million in damages? Probably not.

Take a few deep breaths and thank God in heaven you don't live along the gulf coast and maybe this might put things in perspective.

You had a leak, one member of your Board appears to be an a__, your leak was fixed, go on with your life and don't give it any more of your time. And if you think the legal system will give you satisfaction forget about that too.

Good luck and best wishes

JohnM3 (Florida)
Posts: 288
Posted:
Carol of my home state of Florida:
Florida Law Chapter 718 for Condos states if a vehicle is parked illegally the BOD has the right to tow it, boot it, and do what ever it takes to move it period. Thats issue 1

many construction folks in Fl no speak a ala heenglishes. You alone have to watch where your employees park period.
As to the central ac it usually in condos is property of the individual owners you could have shut it off in your own cb panel

issue 4 you do not know how bad the h2o leak was downstairs or from wence the h2o comes from if its a sprinkler line Florida law demands it must be off and back on inside of 12 hours no matter what time the mechanic arrives its a safety situation. As to you paying your folks before the job is done I do not know the latin words but it means let the buyer beware period

sometimes we are our own worst enemy....this is a reason why I will never buy in a condo

by the way in Florida Broward County the local cops would have towed your contractors truck and towed it and checked there green cards and you would be arrested for hiring illegals which is a statue under Chap 718 of the condo law

Have a blessed day

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