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ChrisP5 (Missouri)
Posts: 165
Posted:
Our MC prepares our monthly statements which I review monthly. Since January I have noticed the line for "prepaid assessments" from unit owners doesn't match the same dollar amount as the actual prepaid assessments when you drill down to the actual account detail and look at how much each unit owner has prepaid. The amount started off around $150 but has now grown to $450ish. I have brought this issue up and our MC can't seem to fix the problem (it may be an issue in qucikbooks).

I doubt there is anything suspicious going on but financial statements are just one of those thing IMO that should match to the penny. I just asked for a status update on the issue since our last meeting and was told they hadn't had much time to look at it but yet the number is bigger this month.

We have noted the issue in our minutes when accepting the financials but I am getting pretty annoyed with this situation. Any advice on how to address it with the MC since asking them to fix the issue hasn't resulted in that happening. I reviewed our contract and it says they will provide us financials but it doesn't say "accurate" financials.
DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
I'm having a similar issue with our MC.

The explanation, I guess, is that some MCs feel that accuracy (or competence) is optional. Some MCs also have inadequate technology and inadequate training with it; they are drowning in their technology with no rescue in sight.

You can make a motion at the next meeting to "reprimand (insert company name here) for misconduct and/or poor performance". Misconduct relates to knowingly doing the wrong thing or failing to do the right thing; however, being stupid or incompetent isn't misconduct. Poor performance relates to not performing according to the contract or not performing adequately.
DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
Also, in case you weren't being ironic, the contract doesn't need to specify "accurate financials". Accuracy can be safely assumed to be a requirement.
LarryK1 (Washington)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Are you sure the balance sheet and the account details are using the same type of accounting?

It could be because the balance sheet was prepared using cash accounting and the details were prepared with accrual accounting, or vice versa.
ChrisP5 (Missouri)
Posts: 165
Posted:
I did request they check to make sure the settings for both reports were the same and they said they were. Intuit also had a couple of other suggestions but none of them solved the problem.

I was it specifically spelled out accurate so they couldn't argue it but I agree that it should be implied.
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
Posted:
Does a member of your board sign the checks? If so, inform the MC that they will not be paid until the problem is fixed.
ChrisP5 (Missouri)
Posts: 165
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By DavidW5 on 06/16/2010 4:44 PM
Does a member of your board sign the checks? If so, inform the MC that they will not be paid until the problem is fixed.

Sadly no, the MC signs all of the checks. I know what a bad idea this is and our auditor pointed out what a bad idea it is but the rest of the board wasn't willing to make any changes.
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By ChrisP5 on 06/16/2010 7:47 PM
Posted By DavidW5 on 06/16/2010 4:44 PM
Does a member of your board sign the checks? If so, inform the MC that they will not be paid until the problem is fixed.


Sadly no, the MC signs all of the checks. I know what a bad idea this is and our auditor pointed out what a bad idea it is but the rest of the board wasn't willing to make any changes.

Chris,

You might want to point out to the rest of the board that by not following the recommendation of the auditor regarding who signs the checks, that they could be held personally liable for violating their fiduciary duty to the association.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Chris, your comment "financial statements are just one of those thing IMO that should match to the penny" is correct. When not balanced to the penny there is the potential of serious underlying problems. No competent accountant or bookkeeper would allow this without making the necessary correction(s).

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