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CherieH (Arizona)
Posts: 19
Posted:
Our CC&R's read 'Trucks, Trailers, Campers, Boats: Parking is allowed in the side & rear yards if SCREENED FROM VIEW of the street & neighboring properties. This is about motor homes. Several owners have purchased thier homes after the realator told them they could park here. They have been and it hasn't been a problem. We now have a new property manager who wants to write violations for all of them. A quick vote at the meeting showed that all in attendence wanted to allow the MHs. The board has decided to drop the 'screen from view' (since you can't screen a MH)and add - with written approval from the Arch. com. & the board. Now, my question, PM says we need a 76% quorum, aren't we clairifying a rule and regulation? Are we, the BOD, able to do this without a quorum vote?
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
No, in this case the PM is correct, you cannot write a rule that changes the meaning of a Covenant. You have to change the Covenant, the Board can "ignore" the violations while voting on the change but if it doesn't pass then you need to enforce it. A 76% quorum or 76% of the homeowner's voting yes to pass it?

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MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Cherie, your HOA is setting itself up for a lawsuit and I, for one, would be a homeowner that would support such a lawsuit.

Your board cannot change any covenant without the requisite number of votes required by your controlling documents. If it's 76% of the homeowners eligible to vote, then that's what it takes.

Your board cannot simply take it upon themselves to DROP wording from the covenant to make it more palatable. It can only create Rules & Regs and policies or procedures that are IN LINE with the deed restrictions.

In addition, a "quick vote" at a meeting is pointless. ALL of the homeowners deserve the right to be notified of the question on motorhomes, and not just those who happened to be at a meeting.

It's boards like the one you are describing that give HOA boards a bad name. They are attempting to circumvent the safeguards in the governing documents that prevent exactly that sort of minority control of the deed restrictions.

They do not have the authority to change any wording in the documents that are TIED TO THE DEEDS OF ALL THE HOMEOWNERS without abiding by the prescribed method for amending any of the wording.

MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Cherie,

Clarifying a rule and changing a rule are two different things. What your board wants to do amounts to changing the rule which can only be done through an amendment that all members of the assn must vote on.

Incidentally, I live in Glendale and, depending upon when your s/d was built, parking in the side yard is a city code violation if the area is not paved. If the BOD is going to re-write the rule I suggest they check with your city code dept to find out if parking in the side yard is allowed. HOA restrictions may be more restrictive than city code but they cannot be in violation of city code, meaning they cannot allow something that city code does not allow.

Until such time as the restriction is changed, IMO, violation notices must be sent to all who are parking motor homes that are not screened from view. Frankly, I cannot imagine anyone but an owner of a motor home wanting to allow this! If you live on acerage it would be one thing, but these s/d lots are generally very small and allowing motor homes to be parked all over the place just doesn't look good. Just my opinion, of course.
CherieH (Arizona)
Posts: 19
Posted:
I thank all of you. It isn't our intention to violate the CC&R's or anyones rights. That is why I asked the question before anything was done. We are in the process of voting now. But it's hard to get 50% of the owners to participate let alone 76%. I'm just thinking ahead. And here,the city does allow side parking (behind a screen gate).

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