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ClaraM (South Carolina)
Posts: 3
Posted:
At one time, our community allowed homes on our three ponds to have fences but limited the height to 3.5'. One was installed, but other owners demurred. Elsewhere in the community, 6' solid panel privacy fences are required. Now a woman has asked for a 3.5' fence on her pond view home, yet the ACC and Board is telling her that she must install a 6' fence, which will cause her to lose her view and create the same problem for her neighbors. The covenants only say that the ACC must approve fence requests. There is a 3.5' fence next to this woman's home, but the Board and ACC continually tries to tell people that it was a "mistake" anytime anyone requests to install one like it. What can happen? How can a board make a person choose between a lovely view and a functional fence?
RickW (Illinois)
Posts: 169
Posted:
I think I would (in a very nice manner) that the covenants describe a 3.5' fence. As an owner I'm following the convenants. If there is another issue please let me know.

In other words, its not the owners responsibility to update the covenants or provide additional guidelines that must be met. Therefore, the board really should either approve the fence or provide solid in writing reasoning as to why the won't approve it. If there is some other issue involved, they need to share it.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By ClaraM on 05/17/2010 4:23 PM
At one time, our community allowed homes on our three ponds to have fences but limited the height to 3.5'.

Was this a written policy?
Is the six foot fence a written policy?
Can you provide the language of the policy?

It is possible that the current committee is just following the guidelines as written. If, after reviewing the policy, the owner discovers that the committee was following the guideline, they may want to appeal the decision to the Board.

Tim
ClaraM (South Carolina)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Thank you for the responses. There are requirements that were written by the HOA/Board that have the 6'privacy panel requirement, but an actual measurement doesn't appear in our recorded deed restrictions, only that any fence erected must be approved. There is a personality conflict on our board with the former president (now secretary) where he does what he wants based on if he likes the person, if the owner is an investor verses resident... Few things he does seems to have much to do with the property itself. Apparently a new rule was suddenly placed where you can only appeal once a year at the annual meeting.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
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Posted By ClaraM on 05/18/2010 5:46 AM
Thank you for the responses. There are requirements that were written by the HOA/Board that have the 6'privacy panel requirement, but an actual measurement doesn't appear in our recorded deed restrictions, only that any fence erected must be approved.

Well, because the documents give the HOA/board or Architectural Committee the ability to establish specific guidelines, then the height doesn't have to be mentioned in the deed restrictions.

There should, however, be a written set of guidelines produced by either the board or ACC so that residents can know what is allowed and what isn't.
ClaraM (South Carolina)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Thank you, Michael. There had been considerations at time given to those that had special views or premium lots. We were told that we could have fences but that they would have to be lower so as not to impede the view. Currently, it sounds as if you have to choose between the view or a fence when you can have both if the fence is simply lower. Now the board claims that never existed to begin with... It's personalities over principals because it is one of those situations where the board has bigotry toward a party.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
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I can see how you might feel that way, Clara.

But lots of times it's just the changing dynamics of a board. Even if the same people are on the board, their feelings or outlook on some things may change over time.

Which is why it's really important to document everything. This goes for the board and the Arc Committee, too.

If the fences were allowed at one time, regardless of what the reasoning may have been, then somewhere along the lines it changed.

That change should also be documented.

In our association, the Arch Comm makes/drafts guidelines on various things over which it has jurisdiction.

Those guidelines and specifications are then voted into a resolution by the full board.

The guidelines are a bit more fluid, so to speak, than the covenants, since future boards and/or Arch Committees can change the specifications/guidelines without a full membership vote.

However, the changes must also be voted on by resolution by the board. So if the board that is in place during the change does not agree with the changes, they don't get codified.

In other words, the Arch Comm can't just change the guidelines on a whim. It has to go through a process, too.

Perhaps you could talk to the residents who have the lower fences and see if they have any copies of approvals by the Arch Comm of their short fences?

If so, then you might be able to present that to the board/arch comm for re-evaluation.

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