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WarrenL (Texas)
Posts: 5
Posted:
hello, new member here. Our condo HOA in Texas is controlled by delinquent investor, who happens to be the President of HOA and owns about 50% of the units. He is pretty much in delinquent in HOA dues all of the units he owns.

Since he is the President of the HOA, he somehow, he was able to block the management company to send overdue notices to enforce the usual collection process and blcoking anything from going forward unless it benefits him personally. Anyways, this year he refused to call an annual meeting where we suppose to vote on the 1-yr term positions of President, Secretary, and Treasure. Our HOA bypaw do not have a specific language to handle overdue broad members from vacating the seat; but our state HOA law does if a quorum of 1/4 of the voting units is called upon. Question: is a quorum our only option?

Also, he is threatening to holds our management company "accountable" if we go forward with bylaws-allowed items such as grant it power to accept the insurance settlement of roof damages from a recent disaster. we suspect he did that for personal gains since the management company did not pick the firm of his choice to do the roofing works since it would costs more (from kickbacks?) to the HOA.

Thanks in advance.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Welcome Warren, if he owns 50% your options are most likely going to be through the courts. You and your neighbors should get together and hire an attorney versed in HOA/condo law. If you can't afford to do that then somewhere in your CC&R's or the HOA law should be a section allowing a homeowner to act if the BOD won't; if it does I would start filing liens on his delinquent units.

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SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
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this year he refused to call an annual meeting where we suppose to vote on the 1-yr term positions of President, Secretary, and Treasure.


The BOD can call an annual meeting for the residents to vote on a new President.

If it were my association, I would not want the owner of 50% of the properties to be an officer (unless its a really small association and every owner needs to be an officer to fill the spots).
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Warren,

Where are the rest of the board members? The Pres shouldn't be running the assn single handedly. He may own 50% of the units but he only have the controlling vote for issues that the members vote on, such as election of directors. So, that explains why he's able to stay in office; however that doesn't mean he has to be the Pres. The other board members need to remove him as Pres and instruct the manager to start sending him delinquency notices and place liens on his units if he refuses to pay.
WarrenL (Texas)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Thanks folks. well, here's the part he was able to pull the stun on all of us so far. Since he has about 80 units (out of the 160 or so), he was able to have 2 more business "partners" to run for and occupied the rest and 100% of the board positions to control the rest of the board (president, secretary, and treasurer). Since the board set the agenda for the third-party management company, which BTW he tries to replaces with his own for personal reasons, the mana company hands are tied in terms of collecting, lien filings, etc. notwithstanding not doing so compromising its fiduciary duty.
ChrisP5 (Missouri)
Posts: 165
Posted:
Given that the developer still owns 50% of the units are you still under the declarant control period described in your documents? If so your developer probably has nearly unlimited power with regard to the board and dues on his/her units.

While we were under declarant control the developer could remove any board member they wanted (including the few elected by the membership) and also didn't have to pay dues for the units they still owned.

MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Chris, I could have read the original post wrong, but I don't think this HOA president is the DEVELOPER.

In think he is an investor in property and has purchased up to 50% of the units and is leasing them out.

It's my understanding that he is simply a member like the other members, but just happens to own more units, therefore has more votes.

But it would seem to be in his best interest to ensure that the HOA is run properly so he can get optimum $$$ for his own units when he puts them up for lease.

It would seem to me that not to do so would be counter-productive to his getting a premium price for his units.

I guess "quantity" is just as good to him.

I feel for the other owners. With this investor having such a large block of votes, they are going to have a rough way to go to have their own interests protected.
WarrenL (Texas)
Posts: 5
Posted:
MicheleD, thanks for the inputs. You're correct that he is an investor and not the developer. I agree with you that it is his best interest to make the HOA solvent and healthy. Here's the hearsay from the rumor mills: his Texas properties are doing relatively OK in terms of underwater, but his out of state properties (NV & FL) are in the tank dues to being over-leveraged there and he is stuck in the short-term; as an homeowner here in Texas, we are going down with him while he tries to gets his acts together unless we act for our interests.

Warren
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Gee, could this be one of the reasons FHA won't write a mortgage if one person has over 10% of the units.

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ChrisP5 (Missouri)
Posts: 165
Posted:
Thanks for keeping me on my toes Michele. I guess I subconsciously made some assumptions when I read the message about someone owning half of the units. Even with out the OPs response I see the error in my thought process.

I agree that even if the owner were the developer they would want to keep the property nice but crazier things do happen.
WarrenL (Texas)
Posts: 5
Posted:
I do have side question. Since our annual meeting and voting supposed to occurs by end of each calendar year, which also our fiscal year, it hasn't happens. Our bylaws do not state what our option are if that happens, thus it falls back to our state statue, which i have not able to find the details. What do most state statue allows for missing an and made-up election?
DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
There's a concept in corporate governance called "minority discount". A controlling interest in a company is worth much more per share than a minority interest in the same company per share. The reason is that 51%+ ownership = 100% control.

Maybe you can use cumulative voting (if allowed by your Bylaws) to get one representative on the Board.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Warren in CA members can apply to the courts to force an election but you probably have the answer in your own CC&R's. Most allow a certain percentage of the membership to call a Special Meeting for a specific purpose.

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MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Glen,

The problem with a special meeting to recall the board is that this investor owns the majority of the units so he would have the required votes to stop any action the other members might want to take that would be against him.

IMO, about the only thing the members can do is to meet with him and try to impress upon him that fact that his assessments are needed for the financial well-being of the assn. Maintaining the "health" of the assn should be of prime importance to him since he owns so many units and would stand to lose the most. In this time of real estate difficulties, the last thing he should want to do is make matters worse.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Mary, at least in our documents a special meeting can be called for any valid reason. No where did I advocate to Warren that he call a meeting to recall the Board but if he wants a Members meeting this would be a way to get one.

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DJ1 (Ontario)
Posts: 798
Posted:
Don't delinquint owners lose their vote, therefore no matter how many units he owns he has no say?
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Depends on the CC&R's and State law.

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WarrenL (Texas)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Good observation, Glen. We looked into it and unfortunately neither our Bylaws nor the state statue has any language to handle such non-good standing accounts, so he was able to escape thru that loophole so far.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Warren,
Everything that has been offered here has been negated by the control of the majority of votes by one person. You has listed a litany of ways you have tried to get representation of the minority of votes. The fact remains that the minority of votes is the majority of people. Consider writing out a time line on all these unfair (and they are unfair) circumstances you have tried to use to get some representation. A power point demo would be great. Call a town hall meeting open to all. Get some good strong leader to conduct the meeting, conduct the meeting as totally outside the association. If this guy is there, he becomes one vote, that is all....new rules at this meeting. Get your point across and ask for cash to get up a war chest to hire a good lawyer. Glen's advice way back. Don't hide nothing, don't exclude anyone and don't get aggressive and make a mistake. This guy will know what you are doing and he will not like looking at a meeting outside his control.....tough. But document everything so when it comes time to get a lawyer you will have the ducks in order. He may be as legal as he can be, but you take this before a judge with a good lawyer and have a good presentation, you will get some relief in all likely hood. For this guy to even want this much control is immediately suspect. Do not close any doors and always be willing to sit down at the table.
He has built a record, lay that record out.

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