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JeffM11 (Indiana)
Posts: 14
Posted:
The developer of the subdivision with which we live has been collecting an HOA fee from all the houses in the neighborhood claiming it is a mandatory regime fee. The developer also went to the extent to request every time a closing was occurring that an HOA fee be applied to the closing settlement papers. However, the CC&R recorded within the county we live does not indicate the existence of an HOA or mention the application of an annual assessment against our lots. My first thoughts is that the developer has been collecting the assessment under false pretenses. Does the developer have the legal rights to collect an assessment without a binding document such as the CC&R calling out the right to do so?
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Jeff,

Based upon what you've posted, NO he does not have the right to collect an assessment if the CCRs do not state an assessment shall be levied against each lot owner. It sounds to me like your property may have deed restrictions, but if those deed restrictions (CCRs) do not mention assessments nor the requirement to have a mandatory HOA then the developer cannot just start collecting monies from the property owners. I find this strange as it's the developer who had the CCRs written. If he wanted a mandatory HOA to be formed all he had to do was state it in the CCRs. Sounds like each property owner who was charged these fees has legal grounds for a court case against the builder. Didn't you notice this charge at closing? The settlement statement is usually provided b/4 closing so you would have had time to review it and ask questions.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Or could the assessments be mentioned in a separate governing document? Like bylaws or something?
JeffM11 (Indiana)
Posts: 14
Posted:
There aren't any by-laws. I went to the recorders office and checked the deed and for any other documents. No one noticed the verbage in the covenants until things around the neighborhood weren't being taken care of as a typical HOA should. After a lot of phone calls the the developer,tThe developer tried passing off the "HOA" to the homeowners at which time they presented an addendum to the covenants that established the HOA along with the by-laws for the homeowners to sign.
JeffM11 (Indiana)
Posts: 14
Posted:
One last note....the subdivision was advertised as having an Homeowners association. This is what led everyone to believe that there existed a homeowners association. So when it appeared on the closing papers it wasn't out of the norm. False advertising?
JeffM11 (Indiana)
Posts: 14
Posted:
One last note....the subdivision was advertised as having an Homeowners association. This is what led everyone to believe that there existed a homeowners association. So when it appeared on the closing papers it wasn't out of the norm. False advertising?
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Your going down a road you cant win.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
JeffM11,
As a new member of the association, you dont know the history of the association or how it was created. For that info, you'll need to talk to the president or BOD members. Talking hypotheticals and thinking the HOA doesn't exist without any facts is just silly. Contact your HOA or neighbors and get the facts. You have CCR's, so your in an association. Now how that association came to be, is a story someone in your development will have to tell you.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Jeff,
Do your homework, Seems you have made a start. I would go on-line and check your county court house for all you can find out. Usually there is a Master Court Case index. Plug in your association name, see if there has been any court involvement, Plug in your developers name and Corp. (All Public record), any Management Companies, any significant names. You are not looking for dirt, you are looking for information that may inpact your association. Go to planning office and ask to see Master Plan, Double check you county records department and douible check entries that contain your association name. Check BBB, go on line and search Business Licenses for developer and check you association name.
If you are headed to some kind of aq show down with developer (and it will be necessary to clear this up) go knowing all you can. Things turn sour and you have the owners support, consider legal action. You sound smart enoiugh, just don't get careless and don't do it alone.
Don't ignore Steve's comments, this may be all very clear to some people in your association. Check it out. Having CC&R's, I agree , normally indicates there is a corporation (HOA). It is also true that many times things are not normal in HOA's.
JeffM11 (Indiana)
Posts: 14
Posted:
thanks for all the input.The subdivision is new and everyone is at the same entry into the neighborhood as I. It's less than 3 years old in development and all have come to the same conclusion looking at the CC&R. I'll follow up with the suggestions made by robert and let you know the results.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Jeff,

Well, it appears the developer has tried to cover up his error by passing this addendum which establishes an HOA and I presume also states assessments shall be levied on each lot owner. If that is what has happened, it really may not be legal, but it would be up to the courts to decide. If the original CCRs made no mention of assessments nor an HOA then these additions cannot be made w/o the approval of the members. Some states require a 100% vote in favor; however case law has not been established in all states. To make matters worse the developer is still in control and has the majority vote so that could have a bearing if the requirement in your state would be for a 100% vote.

IMO, this requires the attention of a good HOA attorney to determine if the developer acted improperly in charging and collecting assessments, then following up with an amendment to the CCRs.

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