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BettyO1 (California)
Posts: 104
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Are financial audits of the association confidential to the board or can they be shared with homeowners? What if there are material findings of internal control issues - can these be discussed at open meetings of the board?
GlenL (Ohio)
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Posted By BettyO1 on 04/23/2010 1:34 PM
Are financial audits of the association confidential to the board or can they be shared with homeowners?

No, in fact as I read D-S there are strict reporting guidelines.

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Posted By BettyO1 on 04/23/2010 1:34 PM

What if there are material findings of internal control issues - can these be discussed at open meetings of the board?

Yes, it's their money.

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GlenL (Ohio)
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Posted By BettyO1 on 04/23/2010 1:34 PM
What if there are material findings of internal control issues - can these be discussed at open meetings of the board?

Executive Sessions

Purpose. Executive sessions are provided for by statute so that boards can address issues which involve privileged information or matters of a private nature. Civil Code ยง1363.05(b). As a result, homeowners do not have a right to attend executive sessions of the board. Boards may go into executive session for the following matters:

1. Legal Issues. Current and potential litigation matters may be discussed in executive session. This preserves attorney-client privilege, litigation strategy and settlement strategies. The association's attorney does not need to be present either in person or by phone for the board to meet in executive session to discuss legal issues.

2. Formation of Contracts. So as to avoid unfair bidding practices, the board may meet in executive session to review bids and vote on contract proposals (termination of contracts is also a consideration).
3. Disciplinary Hearings. Boards should meet in executive session for all disciplinary hearings. The accused member is entitled to attend the executive session.

4. Personnel Issues. Personnel matters include, but are not limited to, hiring, firing, disciplinary matters and performance reviews.

5. Payment of Assessments. Board may meet with members in executive session to discuss requests by such members for payment plans for delinquent assessments.

Who May Attend Executive Session? Directors, managers, recording secretaries, association attorneys, members subject to disciplinary action as well as witnesses called by either side (but only for that portion of meeting involving them), and others invited by the board (such as vendors bidding on a project) may attend executive sessions.

Read more: Executive Sessions
from Davis-Stirling.com


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RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
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Any confidential material has to be held within the Board. Financial or other matters. You problem is going to be to decide what is confidential.

Really Betty, if you all did an audit and the report is such as to indicate the probability of some kind of misappropriation of funds. Don't fool with it, turn it over to a lawyer, that way, you protect the association, let the lawyer decide, you will need him if you are going to charge anyone anyway.

If the Board can't make their mind up which way to jump, they are mandated to get legal advice to make this decision. If it minor and inconclusive and the Board feels they can justify their action (non-action), that decision should be announced.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Robert,

Wouldn't turning the audit over to an attorney automatically make it able to be withheld from release to the membership (legal issues)?

Typically, results of an audit, including the report (if any) should be made available to the membership as part of the financial records. The only reason that I know of to withhold it would be if it is part of a legal action. If the membership knows an audit was done and the board doesn't want to release it suspicions increase and conflict can be the result as the perception of the membership can change from "everything is good" to "if they are hiding this what else are they hiding they aren't telling us?".

If administrative actions were advised, it would be better for the BOD to report to the membership that they were informed of a better way to do things and we've implemented or are in the process of implementing them.

Tim
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
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TimB,
Glad you answered, I just posted a note on a entry from Betty/Virginia and suggested your name about the registration of Covenant changes. Check it out for me, read my post.

Regard your generalization of audit reports. I am absolutely an advocate of transparency. Your observation are well taken and neither my post or your are definitive. It just struck me that the OP was saying I think we got some real problems about this audit. My immediate reaction would be to protect the association from harm, and an indecisive Board in this case is a liability, probably (who knows)?
Not knowing is my issue. But, all things equal, the audit should be published. In my opinion, all of it including any remarks or Board discussion. We have as Board that wants to be open and above board, built their reputation on it. We recently completed an audit, they went thru a number of closed meetings and finally published the condensation of the audit that they felt best served the association. The Board has this mandate also, so they say Board decision, the records are discoverable under our documents and you can request to look at all of them except confidential material. The Board voted to take this position, I have enough confidence in them to know they have weighed this decision and if there is a problem, it is minor and we should move on and correct for the future.
DonN (Michigan)
Posts: 357
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Can't we ever learn that transparency is good governance? What information in an audit report are incapable of comprehending?

The audit was paid for with funds provided by the owners/members. It is for the owners/members. The applicable AICPA Audit and Accounting Guide for Common Interest Realty Associations states in ยง1.33
"The primary users of the financial information of a CIRA are unit owners, whose periodic payments of assessments or carrying charges enable the CIRA to perform its functions. They are primarily interested in information that indicates whether assessments are used for their designated budgetary purposes, and whether adequate funds have been accumulated for future major repairs and replacements. Adequate financial reporting may assist owners in assessing the extent to which the CIRA is meeting its responsibilities to maintain the common property."
Also check your applicable state law. It likely requires that annual financial reports be provided to members.

ChrisP5 (Missouri)
Posts: 165
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I like others say share it with the members since it is an audit of the dues they have paid. More importantly fix the problems that led to the findings of internal control issues and report that to the members as well. We are dealing with the same issue right now, from what I have seen the internal control issues comes from 1) lack of segregation of duties and/or 2) lack of board oversight. Both are fairly easily fixed but requires the board to want to be involved.

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