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AlesaA (Texas)
Posts: 4
Posted:
I have been on our Board of Directors for my neighborhood until just recently (new elections) and it’s been very interesting. This is where I learned of the CAI, and the NRC, and have gained MUCH knowledge about HOA management and the issues that arise.

We have several units in our neighborhood. Our unit (Unit 1) is the oldest and was built prior to the ‘HOA’s establishment. Unit 1 includes was non-mandatory. By-laws state membership carries with the property.

The problem is that those that chose to become members did so to use common facilities and more importantly, to uphold property values. The non-members are not held to any standards. Many non-member lots diminish the appearance of the other properties, making my membership almost useless to me! Here is a breakdown of my unit:

109 Total Members
51 Mandatory
2 Non-Mandatory
4 Associate Members (Social Functions Only)
52 Non-Members

Can you tell me if a legal reference exists re: how to ‘cancel’ or get out of the mandatory HOA? I cannot find anything in the Texas property code. I would appreciate it if you can point me in the right direction. I would have rather chose non-mandatory if it was explained to us instead of getting into this if neighbors will not help to maintain their property.

I can't believe it impossible to request to be switched to non-mandatory and have my deed amended!

Thank you!
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Depends on your many things.... such as "common areas" What are your common areas? The road?

I doubt people in your HOA vote to let you leave the HOA. I wouldn't. If you leave, other HOA members dues will rise.

Additionally, you should take a look at your deed and how its written. If you leave the association, you will have to change your deed, but you may have to change the deed of everyone in your association depending on how its written. You can assume, this would be at your expense.

Personally, I would be in favor of completely dissolving an association if the city would take over the common areas, but I always vote against anyone trying to leave a mandatory association.

Good luck.
DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
Usually, the Bylaws will require a very high percentage (possibly 100%) to agree to allow somebody to leave the HOA.

Like the other guy said, if I were also in the HOA, I wouldn't let you leave.

Dissolving might make sense. Your HOA seems inconsistent with mandatory and non-mandatory members. I wonder if the developer made later units non-mandatory to make it more easy to sell at your expense.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Alesa,

I doubt there is any way you can just opt out of the assn. Once you are a member, you are a member for life!

I'm of the impression that the only reason you want to get out is because so many non-members aren't keeping their properties up. I'm not quite sure what the logic is in having that attitude, but I won't comment any further on that. With regard to nonmembers not abiding by the deed restrictions: Regardless of whether or not a property owner is a member of the HOA, they still have deed restrictions (which run with the land) attached to their proprety which they must abide by. If they violate any of those deed restrictions, any property owner, and the HOA included, can take legal action against them. The HOA cannot fine them, but they can take them to court. So there is no excuse for any property owner, whether a member of the HOA or not, to get away with violating any of the deed restrictions that are outlined in the CCRs.
AlesaA (Texas)
Posts: 4
Posted:
I appreciate all the replies. The Articles of incorporation were filed some years after our unit was developed, which is the reason they could not mandate existing property owners to become members. I will check to see if there were in fact deed restrictions created specifically for this unit. Also, I know to check with the city for code violations. Additionally, the HOA did without my property for many years and dues are still being raised. I guess those that would rather not release me from a mandatory membership in this HOA can come and cut perform the upkeep on our neighbors' grass and shrubs...
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
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Posted By AlesaA on 04/07/2010 10:33 AM
I appreciate all the replies. The Articles of incorporation were filed some years after our unit was developed, which is the reason they could not mandate existing property owners to become members. I will check to see if there were in fact deed restrictions created specifically for this unit. Also, I know to check with the city for code violations. Additionally, the HOA did without my property for many years and dues are still being raised. I guess those that would rather not release me from a mandatory membership in this HOA can come and cut perform the upkeep on our neighbors' grass and shrubs...

Alesa, I don't understand what the Articles of Incorporation have to do with whether or not members are manditory or voluntary. I presume your Declaration of CC&Rs would define whether your homeowners are manditory or voluntary - and can not be some of each. And the Articles simply establish and incorporate the HOA - usually as a nonprofit. Are you sure you are correct on the status you posted on homeowners and HOA members?
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Alesa,

Like Roger, I don't understand what the Articles of Inc have to do with whether HOA is mandatory or voluntary. The Articles are a requirement of the state if a corporation is to be formed. I would be very surprised that deed restrictions are not stated on your deed which is the main reason for having CCRs -- to outline the deed restrictions. CCRs means: "Covenants, Conditions, Restrictions, assessments, charges, servitudes, liens, reservations and easements".

Exactly what do you mean when speaking of a "unit". Normally this means your property especially if you live in a condo but I get the impression you are referring to the development in which you live. At any rate, it's a bit confusing.

When I said any property owner can enforce the CCRs against the nonmembers I was not speaking of contacting code enforcement. Code enforcement may not have a particular code for every restriction in the covenants. I was talking about going to small claims or justice court.

If you read your CCRs I'm sure you will find an article which states that all properties shall be subject to the covenants. In my CCRs the article is titled "property and parties bound" and it reads: "From and after the recordation hereof, the properry shall be subject to the covenants and said covenants shall run with, be for the benefit of, bind and burden the property. Each owner, for himself, his heirs, executors, administrators, trustees, personal representatives, sucessors and assigns, expressly agrees to pay, and to be personally liable for the assessments and charges provided for hereunder and to be bound by all the covenants herein set forth." That means the HOA is mandatory and the CCRs will always be a part of the property as they run with the land. There is no way you can opt out of a mandatory HOA.
AlesaA (Texas)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Our HOA was created after a certain number of streets had been completed; the particular phase of development is referred to a Unit. We are in the 1st Unit. Our Unit was developed without DCCRs, etc. It was just an ordinary few blocks with houses. Then, incrementally, additional 'units' were built, in phases and because the HOA Articles and DCCRs were filed, were mandatory members of the HOA. We now have 7 units total and construction is complete. Each Unit has different, but similar ACCs as well based on builders. My Unit was allowed to become HOA members (annexed into the HOA) homeowner's choice. Therefore, approx. 1/2 of the residents in our unit chose to be annexed into the HOA for all eternity. Remember that not all neighborhoods have deed restrictions, covenents, etc., especially when built back in the '80's. Our only choice is to contact the city and file a code violation due to the condition of a property's negative effect of the rest of the neighborhood, which I will be doing shortly. Not a native Texan, HOA's are very new to us and in abundance here in this state. Sorry, but HOA's are not always a good thing! I understand the dependance an HOA has on it's members, the reason for not allowing one to opt out of a mandatory membership. I still will pursue the options based on our special circumstances. If all were members and all fell under the same rules, there would be no question on how to proceed. Remember, the primary reason for having HOA's is not to provide use of common area's. The primary reason is to preserve property values. My situation isn't providing me this benefit, and the HOA cannot enforce non-member actions, however I think I'll bring it to thier attention to see if they will take it on the aid those of us that are members. Sorry for the ranting, but it seems that some of you assume every neighborhood came with deed restrictions, and this is not true.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
AlesaA
So are "you" a mandatory member or not? Everyone else doesn't matter.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Alesa,

It could be possible that when your unit was "annexed into the HOA" it was not done legally. There have been court cases in several states where the courts have ruled that to form a mandatory HOA 100% of the property owners must vote "yes" to the change. I don't know if there is case law in TX or not; however since you want to opt out of the HOA it's something you may want to check into.

As for the nonmembers who are in violation of the CCRs, IF their property does have deed restrictions, then the HOA may take action against them. As I said earlier they cannot fine them however they can take them to court and any individual property owner has the same authority. Frankly I've never heard of an HOA, mandatory or voluntary, where all the properties do not have deed restrictions. The fact that some were built in the 80's doesn't matter, deed restrictions go back to the turn of the century, at least! And just because a property owner may not have a copy of the CCRs is not an indication that his property does not have deed restrictions. I owned a deed restricted property for 10+ years and never saw a copy of the CCRs -- there was no HOA. However, since you firmly believe not all properties have deed restrictions, the only way to determine what properties do would be to research each property's deed -- or just ask the property owner. The deed should say "subject to covenants, conditions, restrictions, etc" and reference the name of the s/d. It's amazing what problems some developer cause!!
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Alesa, your case brings a new definition to Non-Manditory HOA. I was thinking of having Covenants with no manditory assessment and electing to join the subdivision's HOA. Whereas I think your are referring to having no Covenants and electing to join another (Unit) Filing's HOA. If I am correctly interpreting your post, your property deed does not include a Declaration of CC&Rs (Covenants); unless you later approved being annexed under an existing Unit's (Filing's)CC&Rs.

Did you chose to voluntarily join an HOA but not be annexed? It is important to realize an owner voluntarily joining an HOA is totally different than having the property annexed. To annex would require a signed document by the property owner committing the property to an existing Filing's CC&Rs and that document being recorded with the County. Whereas, in the particular situation I think you have described, simply joining the HOA would not, in of itself, require compliance with CC&Rs of any Filing's CC&Rs. For those properties which have no CC&Rs there is nothing the HOA can enforce; regardless of whether the owners voluntarily joined an HOA. Just my thoughts, please contact an attorney if you desire a legal opinion.
AlesaA (Texas)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Of course, the reason for this post.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:

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"file a code violation due to the condition of a property's negative effect of the rest of the neighborhood, which I will be doing shortly.


Ummm... good luck with that. Diminishing appearance of other properties is in the eye of the beholder. City probably tell you its an HOA problem, not theirs.

AlesaA
Does "your" deed have deed restrictions on it to say its a (mandatory) member of the HOA? Doesn't matter if you signed up for it or the previous owner.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
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Posted By AlesaA on 04/08/2010 12:34 PM
Of course, the reason for this post.

What does your reply mean?
If it means you chose to be annexed into an association which has CC&Rs and that document was notorized and filed with the County then your property is under the jurisdiction and control of a Declaration of CC&Rs. And if you now want to change your deed again it will probably take notorized approval of the owners of every other property controlled by that Declaration of CC&Rs. If that is the case my answer is - it would be almost impossible, but you could consult an attorney.

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