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AB3 (Arizona)
Posts: 44
Posted:
What is the best way to end board member harrassment and accussations? I live in a ungated community which has been targeted by someone or a group who like to take pool furniture, steal potted plants, and play tricks on people. Instead of doing things like locking up the pool furniture with a chain, and securing potted plants nightly to prevent the theift. Board members and their gossiping husbands and wives are accussing me. Why? Because unlike them I'm not self serving and stand up for what is right no matter if I like it or not. While everyone else wants bathroom remodels and fancy landscaping, I want a full audit and for them to follow the reserve study. When the price of a reserve item increased by 64,000.00 in four years putting it off for another 4 years will increase it another 128,000.00. That is like spending 64,000.00 on a trash can. People complain when governments do it then turn around and do it themselves. Waste is waste and is irresponsible.

Since when did wanting to be financial responsible become reason to make accusations and harrass people. How can I stop this in its tracks peacefully? I will file suit against the owners individually if nessasary but would rather not.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
AB3,

Think of what you are asking. You are somewhere in AZ and post a message that you want someone to decide for you what is right and wrong in your community. Now you have already determined these other folk don't know what they are talking about and they live there. How is the world are we going to tell you that we agree with you, we don't live there.
But it is easy to sense your frustration as we have all been through that. First thing you have to do is convince yourself that the association is more important than you or them. You are no teenager, your know there is a solution to your problems, but you are going to wear yourself out trying to be a right fighter just for the sake of being right. there is more to it than that. Consider, you have a heavy investment, consider you are in this for the long haul, consider it is your responsibility to contribute (check your closing documents and read your CC&R's very closely).

Suppose you were right in everything you conclude? What would that buy you. Offer to serve on a committee, get involved, run for the Board (you think it is bad now, try that). Seriously AB3, you need to have an attitude adjustment. They could be doing the worst job in the world but unless you want to go out and start a revolution an recall them all, you better learn to be part of the solution and not part of the problem. Regards the pool stuff, you didn't do it , they didn't do it but someone did it and chaining the stuff down is not going to stop vandalism. Call the cops and work with them as an association to stop this nonsense.
AB3 (Arizona)
Posts: 44
Posted:
I'm asking how is the best way to communicate to these people to stop harrassment. Telling them like it is, has only caused them to lie and discredit myself and other owners. So, how do you communicate with people like this to end harrassment?
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
AB3,
I suppose I was not very clear in my last posting. However, that's about as good as I can do. The subject and object of this conversation is not pick up sides and duke it out. You must find common ground, the common ground is the association and making it a better place to live. That is your obligation and that is the Boards obligation and that is your neighbors obligation. What you all are doing and it has brought you to the mess you are in, it matters not whose fault it is, what matters is to stop doing what you all are doing and try something else. You could take the first step by putting aside "they are a bunch of liars" and sitting down with them and asking what you can do to help. If you all can't work it out, you all will lose.....big time.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
AB3,

If you are being accused of this vandalism through gossip, the best thing to do is ignore it. However, if you are being accused formally, then you need to ask for their proof. Absent that, let them know you are prepared to take legal action if the accusations do not stop. You may also want to demand a retraction. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire!
AB3 (Arizona)
Posts: 44
Posted:
I wish I could ignore it. When you get woke up, questioned, and home searched about something we knew and still don't know nothing about its impossible to ignore. I called to get a copy of the police report and there isn't one. There were 4 police cars and at least 4 cops at my home and there isn't a police report. Too boot a friend has contact with several owners and came over 2 days later telling us that these owners told him that day that I did it. They didn't say these people could have done it. They said I did it specifically by name, not that guy that lives over there. Plus they are still saying it even after the police questioned me and searched my home without arresting me or giving me a ticket. That should have ended it but noooooo! This doesn't include the bogus violation letters.

I'm so glad there aren't children in this community. This sets a very bad example.

SureshD
Posts: 268
Posted:

They (police) searched your home?

Would'nt that require a search warrant signed by a judge?

Now your saying there is no police report?

How about a copy of the search warrant?

Are you telling us everything?

SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
There is much more AB3 isn't saying. And I'm not saying he has to. But your story so far....... isn't adding up.

In addition...... if police entered your home, there is a police report or some kind of documentation. If you let them in without a warrant, that is your choice but if they did have a warrant you can obtain a copy of the search warrant.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Steve,
Couldn't agree more. The same could be said of a lot of posts we get. Some you fess up and try to solve the problem, others will absolutely not, but, that's life, and I also agree, "I'm not saying they have to."
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
AB3,

I find it hard to believe the police entered your home and searched it, presumably w/o a search warrant, and there is no police report! Please tell me you don't live in Glendale, which is where I live! First of all why did you let them in w/o a warrant? Are you aware that if you let a police officer into your home they then can search w/o a warrant or your permission if they see something questionable (which could be just about anything!)? But, at any rate, I think it's time for legal action and/or a public apology. Also,I would be demanding to see what evidence the board has to lead them to believe you are the vandal. What are the violation letters for? All this because you questioned the BOD's financial decisions????

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