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KevinK7 (Florida)
Posts: 1,343
Posted:
According to Florida Statute 689.28, titled "Prohibition against transfer fee covenants" states that a "transfer fee" is a "fee or charge required by a transfer fee covenant and payable upon the transfer of an interest in real property, or payable for the right to make or accept such transfer, regardless of whether the fee or charge is a fixed amount or is determined as a percentage of the value of the property, the purchase price, or other consideration given for the transfer."

According to the statute, "any fee, charge, assessment, fine, or other amount payable to a homeowners', condominium, cooperative, mobile home, or property owners' association pursuant to a declaration or covenant or law applicable to such association, including, but not limited to, fees or charges payable for estoppel letters or certificates issued by the association or its authorized agent" is not considered a transfer fee according to the section.

From my understanding, a developer cannot charge transfer fees, but I question as to whether a HOA can. While that statute states that any fee, charge, assessment, fine, or other amount payable to a HOA is not considered a transfer fee, I was curious as to the wording. Transfer fees are different from assessments and regular fees, and I was wondering if the language concerning HOAs was only placed to prevent a conflict with other assessments and fees required by covenant. This just may be my interpretation, but I would think that without the section referring to HOAs, a homeowner could use the transfer fee legislation to try and fight paying other types of obligations.
PeterB1 (Florida)
Posts: 257
Posted:
Florida statute 720 provides for the collection of 'fees' by the HOA.

"The association or its authorized agent may charge a reasonable fee to the prospective purchaser or lienholder or the current parcel owner or member for providing good faith responses to requests for information by or on behalf of a prospective purchaser or lienholder, other than that required by law, if the fee does not exceed $150 plus the reasonable cost of photocopying and any attorney's fees incurred by the association in connection with the response."

We charge that fee when the title company comes to us with an Estoppel request. Never have had a proble,

peter
KevinK7 (Florida)
Posts: 1,343
Posted:
Would that be a "transfer fee" or a fee to cover requests of information if desired by a prospective purchaser, only if requested. The covenants and restrictions I was reading state that "the Association shall charge and collect an initial,
one time, Initial Assessment / Transfer Fee from each Owner in the amount of $250.00 per Lot for all Lot transfers to any new Owner."
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Not my intention to hi-jack your thread Kevin but did you catch this little beauty from the news feed earlier in the month about private transfer fees. The idea being that every time the home is sold 1% of the sale price would go back to the original developer.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=363252

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
KevinK7 (Florida)
Posts: 1,343
Posted:
That is actually what made me think of it...

I had noticed the article and then remember in the amended covenants that my neighborhood is trying to enforce what they called an "initial assessment/transfer fee."

I had read that Florida had laws against Transfer Fees, but the legislation had some exclusions, but I was unclear of the interpretation...

I had viewed the intent of the law to distinguish transfer fees from other types of fees the HOA can charge...

As for the private transfer fees, I found it ridiculous that companies would do that, and I fail to see the truth behind the action of such a fee...
DavidC24 (Florida)
Posts: 31
Posted:
We amended our covenants to have buyers pay a tranfer assessment in addition to all other assessments and HOA fees.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
David,

The FL statute quoted by the OP does not apply to HOAs. From FL 689.26:

"The following are not transfer fees for purposes of this section:

7. Any fee, charge, assessment, fine, or other amount payable to a homeowners', condominium, cooperative, mobile home, or property owners' association pursuant to a declaration or covenant or law applicable to such association, including, but not limited to, fees or charges payable for estoppel letters or certificates issued by the association or its authorized agent."

DavidC24 (Florida)
Posts: 31
Posted:


I appreciate your response and I did know that but we wanted the language to reflect that it is an assessment and not fee. :-)

BTW, what does OP stand for?

Thanks.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
OP = either "original post" or "original poster" depending on the context.
MonserratP (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
I just got a letter from my association stating that I need to pay a $500 transfer fee. According to them, each time a lease begins or ownership of a home changes, a transfer fee must be paid. I have had tenants for a year, which have renting again for another year. The association did not want to approve a "renewal of lease" form. They requested a new lease, which had exactly the same terms, to the same people (a married couple). We did as they requested, but now they sent me a letter stating:

"The letter is being written to inform you that a fee of $500 has been added to your ledger for non-payment of the occupancy transfer fee that, according to the Cascada Isle Declaration (Section 25.1 and 25.2J is required for the current lease agreement. Each time a lease begins or ownership of a home changes, a transfer fee must be paid, regardless of whether or not a transfer fee was paid for a prior lease term."

CAN THEY DO THIS? IS THIS LEGAL???
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
YES
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
MonserratP, maybe you should start a new thread. This one is almost 6 years old.

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