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JacquelineB2 (Florida)
Posts: 50
Posted:
Does anyone and has anyone used the "recall" notice that became one of the new laws from the Florida Legislature in June, 2008? If so, can you please advise me on how to go about doing this. Thanks.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Jacqueline,

For those of us not from FL. can you provide a little more information about the law or a link/site address to where we can read it?

Thanks,

Tim
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Jacqueline,

IF you are on your HOA Board, then you should know this or at least know where to go for information. This is serious stuff and all Board members should know your Statutes. Anyhow, I have copied the entire Statute.

This is Statute 720:303-(10)

"10) RECALL OF DIRECTORS.--

(a)1. Regardless of any provision to the contrary contained in the governing documents, subject to the provisions of s. 720.307 regarding transition of association control, any member of the board of directors may be recalled and removed from office with or without cause by a majority of the total voting interests.

2. When the governing documents, including the declaration, articles of incorporation, or bylaws, provide that only a specific class of members is entitled to elect a board director or directors, only that class of members may vote to recall those board directors so elected.

(b)1. Board directors may be recalled by an agreement in writing or by written ballot without a membership meeting. The agreement in writing or the written ballots, or a copy thereof, shall be served on the association by certified mail or by personal service in the manner authorized by chapter 48 and the Florida Rules of Civil Procedure.

2. The board shall duly notice and hold a meeting of the board within 5 full business days after receipt of the agreement in writing or written ballots. At the meeting, the board shall either certify the written ballots or written agreement to recall a director or directors of the board, in which case such director or directors shall be recalled effective immediately and shall turn over to the board within 5 full business days any and all records and property of the association in their possession, or proceed as described in paragraph (d).

3. When it is determined by the department pursuant to binding arbitration proceedings that an initial recall effort was defective, written recall agreements or written ballots used in the first recall effort and not found to be defective may be reused in one subsequent recall effort. However, in no event is a written agreement or written ballot valid for more than 120 days after it has been signed by the member.

4. Any rescission or revocation of a member's written recall ballot or agreement must be in writing and, in order to be effective, must be delivered to the association before the association is served with the written recall agreements or ballots.

5. The agreement in writing or ballot shall list at least as many possible replacement directors as there are directors subject to the recall, when at least a majority of the board is sought to be recalled; the person executing the recall instrument may vote for as many replacement candidates as there are directors subject to the recall.

(c)1. If the declaration, articles of incorporation, or bylaws specifically provide, the members may also recall and remove a board director or directors by a vote taken at a meeting. If so provided in the governing documents, a special meeting of the members to recall a director or directors of the board of administration may be called by 10 percent of the voting interests giving notice of the meeting as required for a meeting of members, and the notice shall state the purpose of the meeting. Electronic transmission may not be used as a method of giving notice of a meeting called in whole or in part for this purpose.

2. The board shall duly notice and hold a board meeting within 5 full business days after the adjournment of the member meeting to recall one or more directors. At the meeting, the board shall certify the recall, in which case such member or members shall be recalled effective immediately and shall turn over to the board within 5 full business days any and all records and property of the association in their possession, or shall proceed as set forth in subparagraph (d).

(d) If the board determines not to certify the written agreement or written ballots to recall a director or directors of the board or does not certify the recall by a vote at a meeting, the board shall, within 5 full business days after the meeting, file with the department a petition for binding arbitration pursuant to the applicable procedures in ss. 718.112(2)(j) and 718.1255 and the rules adopted thereunder. For the purposes of this section, the members who voted at the meeting or who executed the agreement in writing shall constitute one party under the petition for arbitration. If the arbitrator certifies the recall as to any director or directors of the board, the recall will be effective upon mailing of the final order of arbitration to the association. The director or directors so recalled shall deliver to the board any and all records of the association in their possession within 5 full business days after the effective date of the recall.

(e) If a vacancy occurs on the board as a result of a recall and less than a majority of the board directors are removed, the vacancy may be filled by the affirmative vote of a majority of the remaining directors, notwithstanding any provision to the contrary contained in this subsection or in the association documents. If vacancies occur on the board as a result of a recall and a majority or more of the board directors are removed, the vacancies shall be filled by members voting in favor of the recall; if removal is at a meeting, any vacancies shall be filled by the members at the meeting. If the recall occurred by agreement in writing or by written ballot, members may vote for replacement directors in the same instrument in accordance with procedural rules adopted by the division, which rules need not be consistent with this subsection.

(f) If the board fails to duly notice and hold a board meeting within 5 full business days after service of an agreement in writing or within 5 full business days after the adjournment of the member recall meeting, the recall shall be deemed effective and the board directors so recalled shall immediately turn over to the board all records and property of the association.

(g) If a director who is removed fails to relinquish his or her office or turn over records as required under this section, the circuit court in the county where the association maintains its principal office may, upon the petition of the association, summarily order the director to relinquish his or her office and turn over all association records upon application of the association.

(h) The minutes of the board meeting at which the board decides whether to certify the recall are an official association record. The minutes must record the date and time of the meeting, the decision of the board, and the vote count taken on each board member subject to the recall. In addition, when the board decides not to certify the recall, as to each vote rejected, the minutes must identify the parcel number and the specific reason for each such rejection.

(i) When the recall of more than one board director is sought, the written agreement, ballot, or vote at a meeting shall provide for a separate vote for each board director sought to be recalled.

RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
After reading over this recall law and trying to figure out the complexities of all this you have to ask if it is worth all this.

I know some might feel your position is such that you just can't wait another minute, action is called for. But on reflection I would expect nearly all your ills are long standing and resulted from things falling part over a long period of time. If you look at your comittment as being the life of your mortgage, consider how I can make a change over the long haul little by little. Consider changing out the Board by voting your selections in when vacancies occur, be they termination of tenure or replacing resigned members. Get proactive in your association and by small steps complete the revolution. It may take you five years but your change will be gradual and mabe not as tramatic as a complete change of Board. Then you have to be ready and able to replaced recall members.

Don't discount this option when planning your actions for change.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Robert,

I don't know if you picked up my irritation in the first 2 lines but I do get so aggitated when anyone,(not knowing if the O.P is on her Board) who wants to serve as a Board member, has not a clue where to find out what the regulations are for their State and HOAs. No one seems to want to do their homework and that is why HOAs are full of complaints and inefficiencies. With Google and Bing, all it takes is a question and a click.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Donna,

I agree wholeheartedly! I'm sure you've noticed the number of people who come on here and ask what their state laws say. Why can't they just go to the State Leg. website and look up the material themselves? IMO, it's because they are just plain lazy and expect someone else to do it for them. And, so many of us comply -- we all just aid and abet!!!
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Mary and Donna,
You are right, I have gotten so the only three people I trust are, make it four people: are Mary Donna, Michele and me, and I am not so sure of Mary, Donna and Michele.

I can remember back when I first started to take an interest in how this stuff all works, I was looking more for assurances that I was really evaluating things proper, because nothing could be this screwed up. After a while that surprise factor faded and now we just go along and and try to tell it like it is. I think a lot of folks that post for the first few times are looking for someone to tell them they are right, they just can't believe it. Maybe we forget how lonely we felt when we started asking around in our associations and no one seems to be interested that there are plenty of problems to go around and we felt we were the Lone Ranger because no one paid any attention. Posting on this site is like being a Board member, do even thing about it if you are looking for allocades. Must of the good we do (questionable) is never on display after the fact, but you can also see many of our posters grow and gain confidence while posting on this site. I also remember the first time I posted something here and someone got on and agreed with me. Red letter day. Of course I found out a couple days later what I said and a poster agreed about was dead wrong. Humble pie.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Thanks Robert,

I was appointed to my Board after an amendment to increase the BOD from 3 to 5. The amendment would never have passed if I and a couple of others had not gone door to door, begging for the members to sign their ballots and that I would wait to take them to the Board for the count meeting. My reward was an appointment which I surely did not want. But duty called and no one else would do the job.

My first official duty was to send for 5 copies of the Statutes at that time. Every Board member got one. By now, I just about can go blindfolded to the proper information when needed. I am not a hero, I just don't like looking stupid in front of my fellow association members. So that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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