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DeborahC3 (Tennessee)
Posts: 8
Posted:
We are in the process of a turnover with little direction. What are the exact duties/guidelines of a HOA treasurer?
HB (Oregon)
Posts: 143
Posted:

The treasurer is the custodian of the funds, securities and financial records of the association. When the association has a manager or management company that actually handles the funds on a daily basis, the treasurer's duties will include overseeing the appropriate people to insure that the financial records and reports are properly kept and maintained. Unless the by-laws otherwise specify, the treasurer is responsible for coordinating the development of the proposed annual budget and for preparing and giving the annual financial report on the financial status of the association.

The treasurer does not have the authority to bind the association or the board of directors in dealings with third parties unless the board has provided express authority for the treasurer to do so. As with the association's secretary, the treasurer does not have to perform the day-to-day record keeping functions of the association when this responsibility is transferred to a management company, but the treasurer will ultimately be responsible for insuring that the financial records of the association have been maintained properly in accordance with sound accounting practices.

RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Deborah,
Another suggestion is to stop by a hoa in you vicinity and see what and how they duties of treasurer.
Or, look at left side of this page, click on CAN highlighted site, look in there and check there reference library, or,
use search feature top of this page a search treasurer or board duties or something like that.
DeborahC3 (Tennessee)
Posts: 8
Posted:
I may just have to go and talk with other HOA's as stated. I'm a detail numbers person, but I need to learn bookkeeping. I love to analyze numbers and I know I can do this but I want it done right and want exact procedures. Is that the only way that you would suggest to go about learning? or Is there a web site that you would recommend?
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
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Deborah,
Please read my above. It is a place to start. Google bookkeeping for HOA, bet there are 1000.s of sites, but bookkeeping is bookkeeping, and it is proper for HOAs to apply the principals to achieve the aim.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
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Posted By DeborahC3 on 01/16/2010 3:48 PM
We are in the process of a turnover with little direction. What are the exact duties/guidelines of a HOA treasurer?

If your HOA hires a managing agent one of their duties is usually to handle the accounting and your job will be to monitor them. Otherwise here are some duties:
1) develop the annual budget;
2) have a financial review done yearly;
3) have a long range reserve plan developed and upgrade every three years;
4) prepare invoices and bill owners on a periodic basis as determined by your association;
5) receive and book payments;
6) deposit payments in a checking account;
7) prepare checks for paying the bills;
8) have checks signed and mail to vendors;
9) prepare monthly financial reports which may include - balance sheet, income statement, check register, cash flow, or any others wanted by the Board;
10) provide a monthly report and a report at each Board meeting;
11) prepare, mail, and receive payments for delinquent accounts;
12) prepare account ledgers for attornies handling liens and court filings on delinquent accounts;
13) provide status reports for home sales.

These may be some of the Treasurer's responsibilities.

The Treasurer has the most time consuming job of any Board member; that is why even small HOAs hire someone knowledgable in accounting to do this job. This job is a whole lot more than just "working with numbers" and is a hugh responsibility.

Good luck
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
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Deborah,

Is your assn going to hire a manager or are you going to self-manage, meaning you will be doing the accounting/bookkeeping? If the latter, then I would recommend you taking a course in bookkeeping. IMO, an HOA treasurer who is going to be resp. for keeping the financial records of the assn should have knowledge in bookkeeping at least. Whether you are a "numbers" person or not, if you don't understand basic bookkeeping you will be lost.
DeborahC3 (Tennessee)
Posts: 8
Posted:
Many of our community members do not respond well to dues. They are quite surprised that our expenses provided by the developer are as high as they are. With that said, I highly doubt that a manager is even in the question. The developer provided us with a number that we would have to meet. We are short with our dues income and he strongly suggested a raise in dues. We did in hopes that once we get started, we will have a better grasp on things and will be able to come back down some. Many of our homeowners are unhappy about the raise in dues. We are cutting out as much as we can and that is why I would have to assume we are doing this on our own.

As of right now we do not have any money. The board members are elected, but we did not sign the papers yet.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Deborah,

What papers do you need to sign???? Once you're elected to the BOD, that's it!
DeborahC3 (Tennessee)
Posts: 8
Posted:
The turn over papers.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Deborah, There is a lot of stuff that seems out of sequence in this process.

If you would give us a chronological list of what happened since you purchased the property until now. I expect someone is playing loose with the turn over procedures. I am not pointing fingers aty anyone or suggesting any of this process you are going through will make a difference. The position you say your board is in does not seem legit. If you are independent (have control of the association) then why are you all turning money over to developer.
DeborahC3 (Tennessee)
Posts: 8
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O.k.... The developer had ownership/control of the development for the past 10 years. They now are wanting to turn it over to the homeowners. We had a meeting with him this saturday and elected board members (our first board members ever). He also wanted us to vote on an In the past we answered to him. Now it will be the board. We never had control of the money before or were involved in knowing exact numbers on expense or if any at all. This is all new to us. He wanted us to raise dues since they covered all expenses above what was brought in from homeowners in the past and now it will be solely up to us.

Some of the homeowners, not understanding the expenses we have, think it is too much. I am the treasurer and I am particular about my work no matter what it may be. I know I can do this, but I need direction. I want it set up right. Our President is up on things and learning fast. We are basically learning through people and sites such as this. Bits and pieces. Does this explain it any better? I really value any help or input.
DeborahC3 (Tennessee)
Posts: 8
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One thing I left out. At the meeting on Saturday, he wanted us to sign the papers turning it over to us. (not money, but the development). We told him we were not signing yet and he said he understood. We want to get an attorney to look over the documents. Other than this being left out, that is pretty much the order.
JeanneK3 (Maryland)
Posts: 562
Posted:
Deborah:
Community Associations Institute (CAI) has a book store on its web site with pamphlets on a Treasurer's duties as well as on Transition from Developer to Homeowners. You'd be wise to get them and have the whole board read them.
Jeanne
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Deborah. In my opionion you all did exactly the right thing not to sign papers. Now your next important step is to select a good HOA lawyer. Don't get your cousins next door neighbor. Inquire around by phone to other associations and get a rooster to be considered. Before you go to meeting with developer a couple of you meet with your lawyer and go over your papers and records and clarify everything where doubt exists, them get the lawyer to spell out exactly what is going to happen procedure wise, get him/her to explain any leverage you have and the disadvantages you are at. With your information your lawyer should be able to tell you what to expect, what to shoot for and how to close the deal, and normally you are looking to close the deqal, not continue with him in any way. Lots to ask this lawyer so make a list, you sound capable enough and just take as much strong leadership to the meeting you can muster, "get'er done"
DeborahC3 (Tennessee)
Posts: 8
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Thank you for all the great info. If you think of anything else, please feel free to add. We will take any input you are willing to give. Thanks again.

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