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PeterB1 (Florida)
Posts: 257
Posted:
According to our Architectural Guidelines, when houses are to be painted, "appropriate colors are normally subdued and earth-toned colors." Further, "natural materials and light warm earth tones are encouraged."

Additionally, "warm earth tones" are suggested for driveways.

QUESTION: Do these guidelines sound specific enough. People have told us (BOD) that pink is an earth tone and blue is also - because they are found in nature.

What sort of 'guidelines' do you have? Are they specific to a series of colors, a paint chart, or vague and general?

MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
They may not be "specific" enough, so your board likely has the ability to "translate," or make a determination regarding ambiguous portions of the covenants.

Or the Architectural committee likely has the ability to establish guidelines.

All the board has to do is make a resolution (if that ability exists in your governing documents) that X, Y, and Z colors, or various hues of X, Y, and Z colors constitute the earth-tone color palette.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Peter,

My Association doesn't specify any specific color within it's guidelines. We do require Architectural approval before any color is approved and the board specifies to the ACC that the community is of a colonial style. I know that this can have issues but so far, it has worked for us.

I also did some research and discovered artsparx.com which defines earth tone colors as:

Earth Tones – Browns, Umbers, Sienna’s and terracotta’s

Earth tones are just that, colors we see in nature like browns, umbers, terracotta and brick tones. These colors tend to be harmonious, rich in color and depth and impart a feeling of solidity and permanence. Used well, earth tones complement most other color tonalities (except perhaps the vibrant, pure primary colors of Red, Blue and Yellow – suited more for open, uncluttered contemporary spaces). We see earth tones all around us, wood flooring, natural stone and tile surfaces, fabrics and wovens such a sisal and Hessian grass cloths. Integrating earth tones into your environment allow the viewer a sense of approachability and connection. These tones are part of our everyday existence, they are familiar and comforting. In addition, incorporating earth tones into your environment by using materials other than paint (like stone, plasters, natural fabrics, etc) not only introduces new color schemes, but integrates alternate elements into your living or working space. Diversity, however harmonious, adds interest and uniqueness to any environment. From the most minimalist contemporary interior to a sumptuous, over stuffed and darken Victorian setting, blending of materials from wood, fabric, stone, metal and glass, results in a myriad of solutions that create unique, impressionable interior spaces.

I've discovered that if you can provide an external source for clarification of any issue it usually helps to resolve the issue.

I hope this one helps you:

http://www.artsparx.com/colorsforinteriors.asp#earth

Tim
PeterB1 (Florida)
Posts: 257
Posted:
Excellent reference, Tim - thanks.

I wonder if an association specifies 'earth tones' do they date themselves and their community. Lots of homes being painted brighter colors (pinks and yellows - even green)today.

Our rules were written 20 years ago and I don't think they have been modified to reflect current styles.

Your thoughts?

peter
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Peter,

The Architectural guidelines from your association are outdated and need to be reviewed. The new Statutes are more specific and your guidelines need to spell out what colors are allowed.

720.3035 Architectural control covenants; parcel owner improvements; rights and privileges.--

(1) The authority of an association or any architectural, construction improvement, or other such similar committee of an association to review and approve plans and specifications for the location, size, type, or appearance of any structure or other improvement on a parcel, or to enforce standards for the external appearance of any structure or improvement located on a parcel, shall be permitted only to the extent that the authority is specifically stated or reasonably inferred as to such location, size, type, or appearance in the declaration of covenants or other published guidelines and standards authorized by the declaration of covenants.

EllenS1 (Florida)
Posts: 1,148
Posted:
Peter,

While pink and blue may be "found in nature", ie, flowers, I take your docs to mean "earth" tones, i.e., beiges, etc. which would not include a green leaf color either. Their interpretation, if correct, would also include purple and all other colors found in flowers.
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
first, "earth tones" does not equal "anything found in nature".

can someone provide an example of a color not found in nature?

given that the sun emits all "colors" in the huge band of radiation it gives us, what color isn't contained in white light?
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

My association solved the problem by giving the ARC, a color stick which we bought from a well known paint company. Of the 1000 colors on the sticks, we removed any which the committee felt were inappropriate--meaning dark pinks, neons, grossly dark colors. etc. The Board adopted the color selections as "appropriate and compatable with the covenants( which also stated earth tones). When homeowners applied for a change in paint color to the exterior, they were required to submit a color chip to compare to the guideline colors. Any application which was within the color sticks were approved, no problems ever coming up.

Now back to the Statute--Florida only as the O.P. is. The Statutes requires the HOA and ARC to be specific in what is or is not allowed.No more vagueness, it must be spelled out so IMHO, the "earth tones" will not meet new State requirements. You can read the entire section in 720: 3035
PeterB1 (Florida)
Posts: 257
Posted:
Great answer Donna.

Now, can you convince the ARB that we must make changes?

Not too far off topic ---

I have not found anything in our governing documents that authorizes changes in our ARB Guidelines. We are uncertain who is the approving authority of any rule changes. Common sense (if it prevailed) would indicate that the Board has the 'authority' over the ARB. Agree?
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Peter,

I think your A/C guidelines should be more specific. Our A/C reviews paint colors every few years. The colors allowed are given to the homeowners and they can visit the paint store or check them out online. Although they use colors from a particular paint store, paint can be purchased at any store and matched to the color selected. We have quite a wide variety of colors to choose from.

Have you thoroughly checked your CCRs for an article on "architectural control". My docs give authority to the Architectural Committee. The BOD only gets involved if a member disputes an A/C decision and files an appeal to the BOD. The A/C committee has the authority to make changes to the architectural guidelines which are a part of the CCRs. The only authority the BOD has over the architectural committee is that it's members are appointed by, and serve at the pleasure of, the BOD. Your Architectural Committee may be set up differently but it should be thoroughly spelled out in your CCRs.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Peter,

Your governing documents will probably give the Board authority over the ARC as it is a committee of the Board. Guidelines as well as rules are something that a Board writes and votes on. Of course in your case, IF the "earth tones" is in the covenants, then the membership needs to amend that by a vote.

But you stated that "according to our ARC guidelines" therefore I assume that only the Board needs to rewrite those guidelines.
SkuddleM (Colorado)
Posts: 62
Posted:
Years ago our BOD gathered 30-40 swatch sticks from Sherwin Williams. Each stick (actually heavy paper) contained ten colors. All sticks (about 10 inches long by 2 inches wide)reflected our definition of "earth tones", which is also stated in the CCRs.

These sticks were then pasted onto a 2-foot by 4-foot hardboard and appropriate identifications were added to indicate the colors meant for "field" and those for trim. Each color had a light reflectance value determined by SWP, and the CCRs also reference light reflectance values by specific numbers (i.e. 5% to 85% for trim, 15% to 65% for field (walls)colors.

The board was then taken to an annual membership meeting and positioned at the entrance door to the meeting hall. As each person signed in, they were asked to take a look at the board and were told that a motion would be made to accept the colors as guidelines as to what was earthtone and what was not.

The motion was made and passed.

That board has since been used as a gold standard, and now each member of the Arch Comm. has a key ring that contains those same swatches. Those are used to compare against the color chips that homeowners are required to submit along with their arch change request forms.

Works for us, maybe something like that will work for your HOA?
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Where have you been SkuddleM, we missed you.
SkuddleM (Colorado)
Posts: 62
Posted:
I've been right here, trying to keep warm!

And I've not been all that successful. Fourth coldest December in Grand Junction since records have been kept (don't know how long that is though).

Gee it's nice to be missed!
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
SkuddleM,
I copied our umbrella POA on your suggestion about the paint strips. Their ARC thought it was a great idea. Any royalties received by you should be forwarded to me.......

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