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SharonS6 (Missouri)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Does anyone have an example of a grandfather clause which would allow a violation which existed before we elected trustees, to stand without penalty? We would like to include that upon sale by the original owner, the violation be made to conform to the covenants or be reviewed by the trustees for a formal waver. Is this even possible?
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
I would not do that.

Why would you want to do that?

A violation is a violation and, depending on whether your state or documents have a statute of limitations, all violations that were not remedied prior to having trustees must now come into compliance.

The only time a grandfathering should be considered is if the documents changed since the violation occurred, not whether or not there was a formal cadre to enforce them.

For example, if your covenants always restricted chain link fences, and someone put one up before the trustees took over, the chain link fence must now come down (except in areas where a statue of limitations for enforcement exists).

If, however, your covenants did not restrict chain link fences before the trustees took over, and once the trustees took over an amendment to the covenants was made that restricts chain link fences, any fences that were erected prior to the amendment are "grandfathered."

However, once the fences require major repair, then they can be brought into compliance.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Sharon,

Virginia, my state, law actually binds the Association to the purchaser for any statement made on the disclosure statement. Therefore, if the house was painted yellow and should have been painted red, but the Association failed to mention that violation on the disclosure statement - the yellow house is now considered in compliance. However, many in our Association wrongfully felt that this really didn't apply to us (major issue).

Due to this issue within the Association, the following grandfather clause was recently adopted by the membership:

Any design change (past, present or future) to a lot located within the [Name of Association] that was approved, in writing, or identified as being in compliance on any past, current or future disclosure packet properly issued under the Virginia Property Owners' Act, is hereby considered in compliance with current or future Architectural Guidelines providing the item identified in the design change or as reported on a Disclosure Statement is kept in proper repair and appearance and if replaced, the replacement must adhere to the current guidelines adopted an in force by the Association at the time of replacement.

Hope this helps. The amendment was adopted by a 3 to 1 ratio (3 yea to every 1 nay).

Tim
BarbaraD6 (Florida)
Posts: 347
Posted:
Sharon,
We have many residents who state they have been "grandfathered" when they receive a violation letter. We point out to them their violation has never been allowed which has nothing to do with grandfathering.
If some are allowed to break the rules I see "lawsuit" coming.
Barbara

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