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ChristinaR (Maryland)
Posts: 99
Posted:
I used to serve on the Board of Directors, but resigned about 2 months ago. Our by-laws state that there will be 3 directors, but an amendment among the management company's paperwork that was apparently approved in 2003 states that there will be 5 directors.

I have searched the Land Records here in MD and cannot find any record of this amendment being legally recorded among our documents. I also purchased my home in 2007 and was given a copy of the documents as per the laws in the state of MD. This amendment was not among my documents.

The amendment I received from management states "The foregoing amendment to By-Laws was approved by Owners having the requisite number of votes of quorum of the Owners present at the meeting in person or by proxy." Our By-Laws require a 90% approval of all Owners for amendments. We have trouble getting the 10% quorum at our annual meeting because people just don't care to attend or even fill out and return their proxy. The way I read the amendment is that it was approved based on a 90% vote of the people present at the meeting which is a clear violation of our by-laws.

Does anyone else read this the way I do? How can we as Owners ask for verification of this amendment vote? Since this vote was taken, the community has changed management companies at least 4 times. This leaves the board with limited access to any proxies on file from 2003.

The remainder of the board may not be able to fill the remaining 2 slots. No one comes to the meetings and no one wants to be on the board. They are asking me if I could look into this document because I have knowledge on accessing the Land Records. They would prefer to keep the board at 3 members if this amendment was not approved properly, which I don't think it was.

Thanks for any and all feedback.
JeanneK3 (Maryland)
Posts: 562
Posted:
Christina:

Are you an HOA or a Condo? There are different requirements as to what must be submitted to the Land Records. But, in general, amendments must be in the land records or they are not legal.

However, you have a bigger problem, which is getting people to run for the board. You might remind them that if you don't have the proper number on a board the community can be put in receivership which will cost each homeowner a fortune. See http://mlis.state.md.us/2007rs/billfile/SB0287.htm

Jeanne
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Christina, I would first look at your Ariticles of Incorporation (if you are incorporated) to see what they state the number of Directors. The Articles overrule your By-laws so their limits the number of directors applies.

Whether or not this resolves the required number of directors, you should try to amend the By-laws if they really require 90% approval of all members. Try to amend to a reasonable number - such as 2/3 of the members voting to approve at a duly called meeting. If this is approved the Articles of Incorporation should be amended as well.
ChristinaR (Maryland)
Posts: 99
Posted:
We are an HOA and I just looked at our Articles of Incorporation and they do have the same statement. Which means that technically they can continue with only 3 board members...correct?

The Articles only require a 75% vote and our Declarations and By-Laws require a 90% vote until 2011, then it is a 2/3 vote.

It is a problem, but most of the previous board members from years past are now in foreclosure and can't serve and the former board members have become such a nuisance to current board members that it makes people in the neighborhood not want to run. Myself and the VP resigned due to constant harassment by former and even current board members. Daily emails, threatening emails and constant bickering was just not what I wanted to be a part of.

People were in it for the power and to get their own personal agendas passed and were not always in the interest of the community. And since no one attends the meetings, no one sees it until it's too late.

One of our current Directors wants to make the entire community including Open Space exclusive to residents only. Which means kids can't have friends come over and play in our common areas. And when I brought this to their attention I was told..."if they wanna have friends over, they can stay inside or go to the community center...that's what it's there for." I feel like our residents pay over $500 a year in dues and should be allowed to let guests use the ammenities in our Open Spaces.

Thanks
ChristinaR (Maryland)
Posts: 99
Posted:
Jeanne,

We are an HOA and in completely reviewing our documents over the last few days I have found that the Amendment was voted on and apporved in accordance with the regulations, however it was not recorded.

In addition, the Articles of Incorporation also states that the # of BODs can be changed by an Amendment to the By-Laws.

This now limits the board to proving this Amendment was not recorded so they don't have to put additional people on the board. The only people volunteering are people that the board doesn't want on the board, but if the MUST have 5 people they will HAVE to put them on the board if they are the only choices.

Can you offer any additional information? The meeting is Jan. 11.

Thanks
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Christina, based on your post the 5 Board member requirement is valid unless in your state the Bylaws must be recorded. In Colorado, unlike the Declaration of CC&Rs, the Bylaws amendments do not have to be recorded with the County Clerk and Recorder. If you are concerned that unqualified directors will be elected can you do some arm twisting and get other candidates to run.
ChristinaR (Maryland)
Posts: 99
Posted:
The problem is that no one wants to be involved. The only woman that wants to volunteer at this point has made statements at meetings concerning the poisoning of neighborhood dogs or other methods of harm to keep them off her property. I don't want a person on the board with these types of views and neither does anyone else.

We are also a Townhouse community and we are at 52% rentals and about 3% foreclosures or shortsales. And the tenants don't seem to care. We are located well outside the DC area and most of our residents commute to DC or even Baltimore and don't want to spend any of their very limited time working on HOA stuff.

A friend of mine and I have been looking through books of code here in MD and it does state that amendments must be recorded, but it doesn't specify whether they pertain to Covenants, Articles or By-Law amendments.

In MD, an amendment is invalid until such time as it is recorded with the state. Our hope is to use this grey area to persuade the board to record the amendment giving the current board additional time to find more volunteers. Our argument is that since the amendment is to the ByLaws but is in direct conflict with the Articles of Incorporation, it should be among the documents given to Homeowners, which is required by law here in MD.

SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Christine - what do your bylaws say about vacancies? It's the board's responsiblity to fill vacancies for our HOA. Your other issues don't seem to be connected with the number of board members.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Christine, Is it possible you have a working relationship with the board that would allow you to be appointed by the Board as a special officer of the Board to research, which you have done, the problem and put you on the agenda for the annual meeting or Board meeting? It appears this failure to register the amendum has put the Board in a vulnerable position. It also appears if you don't effect the change, it won't get done. You are much too knowledgeable to let all this go done the drain and the same for your friend.You also have the option, as far as I know to make a motion at an annual owners meeting, get your friend to second it and force a discussion and vote.
ChristinaR (Maryland)
Posts: 99
Posted:
Our By-Laws state nothing about filling vacancies of the Board only of the Officers. It says that in the event of removal, resignation or death the position will be filled by the remaining members of the board. It doesn't say anything about having to replace the 2 vacancies on the BOD.

But the so called amendment states that the affairs of the association shall be managed by a board of five (5) directors.

The meeting is tonight and I have already forwarded my documentation to the management company. All we can do now is hope that the amendment is deemed invalid and the BOD of 3 can continue without adding the wrong people to the board.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
I'm missing something, I think.

Why would one want to limit the number of warm bodies on a board of directors?

It would seem to me that the more people doing the work of the association, the better.

Did I misread something along the lines?

I would always vote for a board of 5 over a board of 3.

Now, that doesn't mean you HAVE to fill all 5 positions, does it?

In our HOA, the bylaw that addresses number of directors reads something like, "No fewer than 3 and no more than 9."

A board of 3 to 5 would be nice, if people will step up to fill the 5 slots, don't you think?

ChristinaR (Maryland)
Posts: 99
Posted:
There were 5 directors, 2 resigned and now only 1 volunteer to join the board. And this owner makes horrible comments at meetings in reference to poisoning other owner's dogs to prevent them from coming in her yard.

Our documents state that "The Affairs of this association shall be managed by a Bourd of five (5) directors." That's it...no minimum and we've been told by our management company that SHALL means MUST.

This 1 volunteer would still leave the board 1 short and even worse with only 4 members. Those of us sitting on the outside know that this will lead to 2-2 voting ties as 1 of the BOD members were the reasoning behind the resignation of the 2 now vacant spots and their neighbor is the volunteer and attends every meeting with his spouse.

I don't mind 3 or 5...just as long as those members have the best interest of the entire community in mind, which isn't the kind of volunteers we are getting.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Well, then, Christine, that's your real concern.

I would not mess with the number of board members. It is what it is.

And "could lead" to tie votes does not in any mean it necessarily will lead to tie votes. If you have a 5-member board and one director needs to abstain for some reason or another, you'd have the some potential.

An even number is not necessarily the best scenario, but, in my experience, given the relatively few significant things that directors really truly have to "vote" on, even numbers won't necessarily hamper anything.

The thing is, you shouldn't change your documents simply because you are afraid of a particular director. The documents should be held separate from the personalities that could or might fill the roles.

It would seem to me that the more prudent course would be to begin a campaign to remove this pet-hazard from the board.

MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Christina,

If your only concern is WHO is serving on the board not the number of board members then what you can do is lobby for those people who you think should be on the board. The members elect the BOD and if the majority who are voting vote for someone you don't like that's tough. Sorry to sound so harsh but it's a fact of life. The candidates we want in office don't always get elected -- it happens at the federal, state and local level so it's understandable that it also happens in HOAs.

If your bylaws state the board shall have 5 members but you can't get enough members to run for the open position, then the board is automatically reduced. There is nothing that can be done about this. Some bylaws will state not less than 3 or more than 5 and that it must always be an odd number. When there are vacancies most bylaws allow for the BOD to make appointments. Perhaps your bylaws need to be amended again!
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Christina,

If your only concern is WHO is serving on the board not the number of board members then what you can do is lobby for those people who you think should be on the board. The members elect the BOD and if the majority who are voting vote for someone you don't like that's tough. Sorry to sound so harsh but it's a fact of life. The candidates we want in office don't always get elected -- it happens at the federal, state and local level so it's understandable that it also happens in HOAs.

If your bylaws state the board shall have 5 members but you can't get enough members to run for the open position, then the board is automatically reduced. There is nothing that can be done about this. Some bylaws will state not less than 3 or more than 5 and that it must always be an odd number. When there are vacancies most bylaws allow for the BOD to make appointments. Perhaps your bylaws need to be amended again!
ChristinaR (Maryland)
Posts: 99
Posted:
And this is where I am confused.

We had elections in September. 5 Board members were elected.

In January 2 board members resigned.

Our management company told the remaining 3 board members that they could appoint Owners to fill the 2 vacancies.

The By-Laws state "his/her successor shall be selected by the remaining members of the board."

Can 2 of the 3 Board Members vote 'no' to allowing this 'angry pet hater' to serve on the board? Or do they not have a choice if she is the only volunteer?

According to our By-Laws to remove someone from the board, you have to have a majority vote of the members. This would require going door to door to petition for a 'meeting of the members' since we can only vote at meetings of the members according to our By-Laws and we also have 50% rental units which to get the majority vote for the petition and the proxy at the meeting, we would have to search for the unit owners. It is nearly impossible to remove a director.

The current board is working on an Ethics Code and amendments for removing a member due to harassment, violations of CCR's and/or by-laws or violations to the new ethics code. An amendment can be approved with only a vote of homeowners present at an annual meeting.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Christina, the remaining Board members chose who they appoint to the Board. It doesn't matter whether she is the only volunteer, a majority of the Board would still have to vote to appoint her.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Christina,

If there are now only 3 board members, the BOD can choose to appoint 2 members to fill the vacancies. It would be rather dumb to just appoint one as that could result in tie votes. Just because there is only one volunteer doesn't mean the board has to appoint that person. They can choose to just let the board stay at 3 members until the next election. The reason being that they can't get 2 more to fill both vacancies and they prefer not to have an even number of board members. A majority vote of the board would be required for whatever action they choose to take. I really think the BOD should seriously think about amending the bylaws.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Just because someone volunteers does not mean the board is obligated to appoint her.

It is their option.

Frankly, I would vote no.

The thing is, however, this may be a moot point.

If she ends up nominating herself for the next general board election, unless you get 5 other people to run, making her number 6 on the slate, she's likely to be elected anyway.

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