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ChrisP5 (Missouri)
Posts: 165
Posted:
I am curious as to how other associations (particularly those with monthly dues) fund your reserve accounts. Do you have a set amount that you place into reserves on a monthly basis or do you wait until the end of the year and place whatever happens to be left into the reserve account and call it good. What do your docs call for in this situation? I know the standard answer is to check your docs. Mine say to "regularly fund" which is ambiguous.

Thanks
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,060
Posted:
Chris,

For us, and I suspect most Associations, Assessments are an annual function. Mine, as well as others, offer the membership the opportunity to pay monthly vs annually. Association budgets are also an annual function. Therefore, the issue should, in my opinion, always be looked as an annual issue.

Our Reserves is not a physical account. It is line item in the balance sheet and budget. The actual monies may be in savings, cd's or the checking account.

In the past, my Association would "fund" the reserves by placing what ever hasn't been spent over the year into that line item. I'm currently in the process of changing that and actually have them budget to place x dollars every month into the reserves.

State laws may also have a say in your reserves. VA requires a study to be done every five years and, if needed, steps taken to fund the reserves.

Tim
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
Posted:
In our association the dues are collected monthly. When we prepare the annual budget we calculate, based on the most recent reserve study, the monthly amount that needs to be allocated from each monthly assessment to fund the reserve to the required annual level. Those amounts are placed into the reserve account each month.

I believe that this is the correct approach to insure the long term financial viability of the association. It is the old "pay yourself first" approach to saving money that many follow in their personal lives to save for retirement. It can be dangerous to wait until the end of the year and only contribute what is left over to the reserves. By then it is too late to cut back on discretionary expenditures to provide for full funding of the reserve. Any board that fails to fully fund the reserve based on the reserve study is failing to fulfill their fiduciary duty (IMHO).
ChrisP5 (Missouri)
Posts: 165
Posted:
Tim I am hoping to change to monthly as well since it doesn't give the BOD the impression they have a ton of extra funds sitting around to spend but presents a more realistic picture from month to month of what is available in the operating account.
HB (Oregon)
Posts: 143
Posted:
We fund reserves monthly.
PaddyF (California)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Our reserves are funded every month.
DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
Ours are funded yearly but monthly would probably be better.

We are in California and, once you put money into reserves, it is difficult to take out. (We are required to have separate accounts for reserves and operating expenses.) So, by doing it yearly, we have less chance of getting caught short in a particular month.
DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
Oh, and, due to the recession, our HOA's income has become a little more "chunky".

As people go delinquent, income falls behind for a while but, as the collection agencies hunt them down and rack up the fees, we might have a month where the HOA gets a few big checks as people pay up for past dues, fees and interest all at once.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Chris,

IMO, the proper way to fund the reserves is to deposit a set amount in the reserve account each month. Our budget shows a "transfer to Reserves" (a CR figure) amount under the income portion of the budget. This amount would be divided by 12 and 1/12th deposited into the reserve account each month. Then at the end of the year if there is an excess, that amount can also be deposited into the reserve account or just left in the checkbook to provide a cushion for the next year's expenses. To just deposit any excesses into the reserve would most likely result in grossly underfunded reserves. Hopefully the board would not take money from the reserve account if there happened to be a net loss at year's end.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
I agree with DavidW5 - that's how we do it in our community.

Another reason not to wait until the end of the year to fund reserves is that you may not have ANY money if you've been operating at a loss. That has been a big problem in our community also (the increasing number of delinquencies don't help, either). Long before I joined the BOD, there was a period where nothing was put in reserves and it took about three years to replace it. We're still nowhere near where reserves should be, but at least we don't do any dipping in the reserve to cover operating budget shortfalls.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
In Calfornia, all the HOAs that I know of have underfunded reserves and a good number are so broke that they're bouncing checks. The Davis-Sterling laws almost encourage yearly, not monthly reserve funding, and that's what you get.
JennN1 (Washington)
Posts: 8
Posted:
We have done both in our Association. In the beginning, the management company did it whenever the Board told them to transfer funds. Thus, the funds were not usually transferred on any regular basis.

A new Board was elected and a new managment company was hired. The management company immediately recommended monthly funding. I think if you don't see it in the account (the operating account), you don't spend it. Additionally, the benefit for our Association of transferring funds to our reserve account monthly is that reserve accounts typically pay interest and operating accounts typically do not. Why let reserve funds sit in an operating account until the end of the year when they could be earning interest in the reserve account?

Our Association will be fully funded in 2010.
ChrisP5 (Missouri)
Posts: 165
Posted:
Thanks for all of the responses. Most associations seem to be doing what I plan to advocate for at our next meeting. One other question - what criteria do you use for determining if there isn't enough money in a given month to make the monthly transfer and if that is the case do you try to make up the transfer in a following month? I know the simple criteria is to say we don't have $x to transfer this month but do you try to keep a cushion in your operating account?
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
If a percentage of the monthly fee is for reserves, why not deposit it at the start and put the rest in the operating budget?

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Chris,

I'm sure many HOA's experience cash-flow problems from time to time making it necessary to postpose some expenditures. However, the reserve funding should be paid each month just as the assn's other monthly bills are paid. And, yes, it is wise to have a cushion in your operating account to make up for those cash flow problems and for any unforeseen expenses that may arise.

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