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JohnW16 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1
Posted:
I am a new board member of our association and was elected as treasurer as well. I am working to acclimate myself to association business so that I can hit the ground running at our first board meeting. I am looking for feedback from people who have been in this situation before.

At this point I have gotten copies of the minutes and financial statements from the past 6 months and the detailed financial statements (check registers, bank statements, etc) from the past couple of months. I have reviewed our CCRs and bylaws in detail and have researched state condo law. From what I can tell I can’t see that our former treasurer or board (we don’t have a finance committee) have never actually reviewed individual invoices as our management company has signature authority on our accounts and just sends out the financial statements. I haven’t seen anything so far that raises a lot of suspicion other than we seem to pay a fortune for landscaping and snow removal. Should I take the time to go back for the last year and so to review invoices? Is that an appropriate thing to do since I wasn’t on the board at that point? I have read enough horror stories of fraud, lots of late fees or finance charges being paid without board knowledge that it scares me. My board and management company seem less than thrilled that I want to do this which concerns me even more.

What are some other items that you would suggest that I do to become a well educated effective board member? Thanks for your input.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
HI John,

I'm sure that many members of your HOA board are glad to see you volunteer for service. You might bring that proverbial "breath of fresh air" where it's needed. In reviewing invoices, your service will be valuable and you may bring a level of expertise that didn't previously exist on your board, especially regarding a heavy scrutiny of the ledgers. Your board may trust its property managers and that can be a good thing. People join HOA boards for various reasons. Sadly, it's often to spend money or participate in a debate club more than serve as neighborhood property managers or check expenses.

Suggestions......

1. Start your treasurer service with a clean slate. Looking back won't be of much help as you're still learning the position and that your initial review to set off any "red flags."

2. If your property management company is empowered to automatically hire repairmen, WATCH those expenses. I learned that people were calling handymen to move our roll-cart trash cans - $50 a pop - easy money earned by them.....lost money by our HOA. Those $75 basic calls add up handsomely and can get out of reason. PM's have preferred vendors and my sense is that these vendors tend to inflate their prices in exchange for being accessible when needed AND for having to deal with HOAs. Some companies hate working for HOAs.

3. Learn the vendors who, under service contracts, help maintain your property. It's nice to have a contact besides relying on your property manager to serve as a firewall between your board and the service providers.

4. If possible, solicit bids on rather large jobs using a board member in conjunction with the property manager's assistance. When I've had time to meet contractors of our HOA jobs instead of placing a call to our management company to handle all the bidding, our HOA has saved 30% to 40%. The property manager has never minded the assistance or that a resident actually meets a bidder at the property.

5. Remember that your property manager likely maintains several properties. They are a GREAT help but aren't an exclusive agent and won't be as efficient at helping you find the best job at the best price. (See your point about some expenses seeming high. They may or may not be high).

6. Determine if there is a dollar figure on a repair job's cost where the property manager can automatically hire a job without calling a board meeting. This can be helpful during small emergencies. Our HOA has a $500 limit. If a repair costs less than that, our property manager has discretion. Otherwise, the board needs notification.

7. Try to gauge the relationship between the HOA board and the property manager. Learn what budgetary recommendations have been made by the company and were ignored by HOA leadership. Ask what could streamline the work between the HOA and the management company. What concerns are possibly held by the management company's accountants about how money is spent in your HOA? Use that advice to chart your work in your new role.

8. Remember that your fellow board members may not understand what you're doing and may be feel threatened or diminished because the new board member wants to review the board's business. There is too much emotion in HOA board leadership. It's a little government that serves as some people's ONLY outlet of expression. I forget that one.

When "on the ground" handling HOA affairs - if other board members are rather apathetic or dormant - my rules #2, #3 and #4 affect the cash flow from my perspective in becoming a board president two years ago. As your communication with the property manager improves the personal level of trust, you will be as informed as necessary.

Good luck!

HB (Oregon)
Posts: 143
Posted:
John,
Since there has been nothing to raise suspicion, I would suggest focusing on looking forward and handling any current/future financial issues. It seems like it would be a waste of time to "dig" any further.

I can say that a LARGE part of our annual dues goes towards landscaping (we decline snow removal because it is so expensive in our area). We have gotten new bids for landscaping each year, just to be sure we are getting a competitive price. Our biggest expense is maintaining our common area, which seems to be appropriate.

I don't review ALL invoices for recurring monthly expenses that remain the same (ie. landscaping). I do expect the Management company to run invoices by the Board that are "extra" or not normal (ie. fixing an irrigation problem or colleciton costs).

1) request current financial statements
2) make sure you receive financial statements each month
3) make sure the management company alerts you to anything out of the norm. For example, you know that you pay XXX each month for landscaping, and XXX for snow removal. You can demand that they get approval for anything outside the budget.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Don't forget to do your Associations taxes and make any 1099-misc, if needed.

There are time limits associated with these.

Tim
JennN1 (Washington)
Posts: 8
Posted:
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Posted By JohnW16 on 12/28/2009 7:22 AM
I am a new board member of our association and was elected as treasurer as well. I am working to acclimate myself to association business so that I can hit the ground running at our first board meeting. I am looking for feedback from people who have been in this situation before.

At this point I have gotten copies of the minutes and financial statements from the past 6 months and the detailed financial statements (check registers, bank statements, etc) from the past couple of months. I have reviewed our CCRs and bylaws in detail and have researched state condo law. From what I can tell I can’t see that our former treasurer or board (we don’t have a finance committee) have never actually reviewed individual invoices as our management company has signature authority on our accounts and just sends out the financial statements. I haven’t seen anything so far that raises a lot of suspicion other than we seem to pay a fortune for landscaping and snow removal. Should I take the time to go back for the last year and so to review invoices? Is that an appropriate thing to do since I wasn’t on the board at that point? I have read enough horror stories of fraud, lots of late fees or finance charges being paid without board knowledge that it scares me. My board and management company seem less than thrilled that I want to do this which concerns me even more.

What are some other items that you would suggest that I do to become a well educated effective board member? Thanks for your input.

John,

Will you come and serve on my Board? You have already done more than many new Board members are willing to do and I commend you for it.

You should review the invoices as far back as you feel comfortable with. I reviewed ours back for an entire year because the former Treasurer hadn't done so much as review a financial statement or even try to understand the Association's expenses. If you think your landscaping or other fees are too high, than suggest to the other Board members that you put out for a few new bids to see if the fees you are paying are in line with the services you are receiving as compared to other competitors. Landscaping and insurance are the highest expenses in our Association.

I also agree with another poster who said to check out your tax returns and any 1099 filings if you are required to file them. Additionally, review and understand your last two years worth of Audit reports. If there is anything contained in them which you don't understand, ask your auditor or tax preparer.

Welcome to the world of serving on the Board. Based on the effort you've already expended, I'm sure you'll do great things for your Association and your community.

Jenn

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