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ChristinaR (Maryland)
Posts: 99
Posted:
I don't even know where to begin.

Let's start with the fact that our homeowners, with the help of a board member, have petitioned for a special meeting to remove a member from the board. All the issues that they have told homeowners to get their signatures are fabrications and lies.

This board member is also meeting behind the rest of the boards' back with residents and constantly undermining the board.

Now his wife is sending harrassing emails to the board in an attempt to get us to say something we shouldn't.

There are 5 board members and the other 4 of us are tired of the immature drama. This is causing the residents to feel like they can walk all over us.

Is there anything we can do besides try to get a majority vote of the homeowners? Since he has been meeting with some of them in secret, we don't feel that we will be able to persuade them that he is the 'bad guy' not us.

I feel as though his actions are not ethical and unfortunately, there is nothing in our by-laws about being removed for ethics violations.

I can give more details if needed. Please help!
DeeS1 (Michigan)
Posts: 223
Posted:
Many CCRs that allow HOs to vote to remove a board member also allow the board to vote to remove a member "with or without cause" ... check carefully you may be able to do something there.

However, other than the unfortunate expense of a special meeting, perhaps it could be a useful time to clear the air. If the other 4 members are in disagreement with the one -- maybe it would be a good chance to address the community regarding the lies and fabrications. Even if a petition is signed by enough qualifying HOs, what are the chances of reaching quorum for the meeting and meeting the voting requirements for removal? It's one thing to get enough to sign a petition, but another to get people to show up to a meeting. My CCRs require a 50% vote of the entire community to remove (not just of that at the meeting).

Don't forget, you do hold the "power" of the community mailing at the board's majority vote. Perhaps you'd like to send out a mailing telling the community that you support a special meeting to reveal the facts (you might want to point out the cost of the meeting to represent such foolishness) and welcome the chance to refute the allegations with actual documentation (don't know what the issues actually are).

AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Christina..I'm curious...are YOU the board member that the rouge board member is trying to get recalled???

If you have four (out of five) board members that are disturbed and upset about this action you need to be PROACTIVE...rather than reactive.

First....call a REGULAR board meeting (not a special meeting) and have this ONE topic on the agenda. Put it out there...have a discussion about this situation. That ONE board member should be "exposed" at this meeting. Not necessarily by the board but by himself/herself; it may happen that way.

Second....get the minutes from that meeting out in the open.

Third....have ALL FOUR of of the "supportive" board members write a letter and deliver it to every single homeowner stating how you feel about this situation.

I may be jumping ahead of myself since I don't know all the details about your particular situation. But as I said...GIVE information rather than waiting to react to accusations against one of you.

Whatever you do...do NOT react or reply to the board members' wife.
MichaelK11 (Texas)
Posts: 432
Posted:
What are the issues in question? What is the Director (Board member) saying? Why does he want the other Director removed? What are these emails asking of the Directors?

What do your documents say about procedures to remove a Director? To call a Special Meeting of the Membership?

How often does your Board meet? Are Board meetings announced and open for Members to attend? Can you have a Board meeting before this Special Meeting, at which the Board can discuss these issues with homeowners?

How large is your HOA? Is it a Condo Association or single-family homes? Is it a mandatory HOA? Is it a volunteer Board?

It's not necessarily a matter of convincing everyone of which side is right and which is wrong. Perhaps it's a question of simply showing the Members that there is a lot more to whatever-it-is than the slanted view that this Director is promoting, and that there are better ways to work it out than gossip and slander. Show that the other Directors are not secretive or whatever else they are being accused of. Most of you neighbors probably want to believe that you are all honest, hard-working neighbors who volunteered for these chores, and will readily accept the Board's explanation. At least they will tend to believe that there is more to the story, as long as you are not secretive or controlling. You should insist on orderly, rational discussion, in which everyone gets to have their say, and don't be defensive. If you are calm and considerate, then anyone who is belligerent and accusatory will bad on their own, if they don't actually have a good basis for complaint.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Christina, is the "undermining" Board member the one who is trying to get rid of one of the 4 other Board members? If so, the Board may be able to use the Special members meeting to get rid of the one causing "immature drama". When a valid petition is presented to the Board for a Special association meeting to remove one or more Board members, then in accordance with your Bylaws, a Special meeting must be called. I bet your Bylaws would also allow the Board include that problem Board member as another one to consider for removal! At a duly called association meeting at which a quorum is present when a motion is made to remove a Board member, ths Chair should allow that Board member the right to speak before a vote is taken. Also, if a vote is taken and a Board member is removed, and the purpose for the Special meeing does not inculde voting to fill any vacancy which may occur, then the Bylaws usually would provide for the Board to fill vacancies.
ChristinaR (Maryland)
Posts: 99
Posted:
First...no one comes to our meetings except former board members and irate residents. Most of the time there are less than 15 people there...5 on the board, 2 from management and then residents. Even our annual meeting for elections had less than 15 people. Most votes are proxy votes.

I am the board member that they are trying to remove. The former president and the other current board member have been meeting secretly with residents in their homes and discussing board information. She has printed and released board emails and information with sensative account information and addresses. She was voted out of office this term due to her harrassing actions toward Town officials as well as contractors...She called the Mayor at 5 am on his cell phone and yelled at him about some signs that were installed in the neighborhood. She and a neighbor went door to door to get signatures. We got written statements from neighbors with exactly what was said to encourage them to sign the petition.
- The previous management company quit due to my actions.
- We had to raise the annual dues because we had to hire a new management company.
- The previous board approved $20,000 from reserves for a playground, and I didn't utilize it.
- I (not the board) hired a contractor that had been hired and fired in the past.
- I (not the board) had the contractor paid up front and he never rendered services.
- The board was holding secret meetings and not inviting the residents.

All of this items have been twisted to suit their petition. All of these items are public knowledge, but our residents can't be bothered to come to a meeting or read the minutes.
- The previos management company had been in breach of contract for at least 6 months. The board (one the previous president was on) voted to accept proposals from new management companies in August. The management company obviously saw that in our meeting minutes and tendered resignation as of Jan. 31. The new board then voted to hire another management company as of Nov 1 and fire the old one. We were even willing to pay them both to avoid conflict. The old management company then quit on Oct 28.
- We needed to raise the annual dues regardless of management. We have not raised our dues in 3 years and we are capped by our declarations at a 5% increase. Since our bills continue to increase due to inflation, we had to increase our dues before we got stuck.
- The previous board did approved $20,000 for playground. We had countless meetings with engineers, survey companies, playground companies and were merely days away from breaking ground when a resident found that the previous board had not gotten a majority vote of homeowners to spend that money! So really, we didn't have $20k to spend. This was discovered in August. Another reason the previous managememnt company was not going to be asked back!
- The board voted to hire a contractor (not just me) but because she obstained. She told everyone that I made the decision.Myself and the treasurer searched through years of documents. No evidence that this contractor had been hired or fired in the past was found. Not to mention, we requested bids from 3 companies. He was the only bid we received.
- The contractor was a tow company. We don't pay them for their services, we only pay for any 'gone on arrivals.' There weren't any gone on arrivals and therefore, we never paid him.
- The board held 2 'Special Meetings' in compliance with the HOA laws of MD and our Covenants and By-Laws. These meetings were held to interview management companies and sensative inforomation was discussed. My neighbors all knew about the meeting and we didn't keep them a secret. The minutes were recorded among our minutes of the next meeting.

These are all things that I am ready to get out to explain to residents...but they don't come to the meetings! I work over an hour from home and don't have time to go door to door to defend myself.

We do have documentation that allows us to remove a board member with or without cause, but it requires a majority vote of the homeowners. I don't have my bylaws with me right now to determine whether it is homeowners in attendance, by proxy, or regardless of attendance. I will find out.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
How many board members do you have? (including the one who is being duplicitous)

How many residents do you have?

How many residents do you think this group has met with or contacted?

All you would need is to meet with/contact more than he/she has.

But, aside from that, whether residents come to board meetings or not (ours don't; ours seldom even attend regular association meeting, much less the annual meeting), one of the things you will need to do is feed the grapevine yourself.

That's tricky and can be difficult once a competing story already exists out there.

But depending on how many board members support you, and how many of your own neighbors your can count on, it's doable.

First, a brief, bulleted communication to everyone may be in order.

"It has come to our attention that misinformation is being disseminated in a variety of areas and we would like to set this information and the record straight:

-- No contractor has been hired that has ever worked for our association and been previously dismissed. We have recently secured a contractor on a pay-as-you-go basis as the result of a bid process. XXX number of bid proposals were requested; only one bid proposal was returned. That was the winning contractor. We did a due diligence in the records and archives of the association and did not find any materials supporting a claim that this contractor was previously hired and then fired by XXXX Association. If information comes to light that that is the case, we will review and proceed accordingly.

--We were at a shovel-ready stage on installing our new playground when information came to light that the membership of the association had not voted on the budgeted amount. We had to temporarily postpone the installation to correct that error and secure the proper membership vote. We take our responsibility with the planning and spending of Association money very seriously. Spending it without the required membership vote would be improper and potentially illegal. As soon as the expenditure vote is properly executed, we will be able to move forward quickly to install the playground as we were days away from putting shovel to ground when this oversight was discovered.

--etc etc etc

--etc etc etc

Then close the letter with a brief message that the entire board is available at the next scheduled board meeting to directly answer any questions or concerns any member may have regarding these or any other issues. Close with: "As a board, each and every one of us believes in and supports open communication and transparency. We each take the trust you have placed in us very seriously and look forward to continuing our service to the community."

Then, have EACH BOARD MEMBER SIGN IT, including the one board member who is trolling for trouble. If that board member refuses, then, so be it. But all other board members, including you, should sign it.

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