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SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
You’d think I’d be happy about this year’s homeowner’s survey – we publish it around the same time preparations begin on the new budget, as the responses help the Board of Directors set spending priorities. But nooo – I’ve run into a problem and would appreciate your opinion and suggestions. This is a little long, so bear with me

This year’s survey included a question asking whether the Board should budget for swimming pool repairs so we could reopen it next year, replace the playground equipment – or do neither and spend the money elsewhere. We received 34 responses (the best in the 5 years I’ve edited the newsletter) and the majority selected the third option.

The problem? Thirteen of these surveys were turned in by a board member whose family owns several homes in the community (we’re a townhouse community) and rent them out (yes, there are issues there, but I’ll leave that for another post one of these days).

Anyway, it appears one person filled out all of the surveys – except for a few variations; the answers are virtually the same. A different address was listed at the top of the survey (it’s supposed to be anonymous). This appears to me as if someone was trying to skew the votes in a certain direction.

Now, if 13, 31 or 310 people believe the same thing, that’s fine, but I prefer they all fill out their own survey to keep things relatively honest.

When our president gave me these surveys to tabulate, she expressed the same concerns, as did a third board member. I hoped to resolve the matter privately and asked the board member (the one who turned this in) if these surveys reflected the views of 13 different people. He said yes – that’s why the addresses were written at the top. Then why is the handwriting the same – couldn’t these 13 people fill out the thing themselves? As of today, I haven’t received a response to that question.

So my question to you is – am I being too nit-picky about all of this? Without these surveys, the majority still says spend 2010 money elsewhere, so if that’s what these guys were after, this was a waste of time.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
It's a nice gesture to send out the "survey," but are you required to do so in your governing documents? And, are you required to abide by the "majority" rule of the returned responses, regardless of how reflective they are of the wishes of the community as a whole?

Here's the thing, the board was elected to handle the day-to-day business and that includes the business planning.

As I said, it's a nice "gesture" to send out a survey on what is top-of-mind for the members, but in the end, the board needs to make the decisions and they should make them based on a variety of input and research, not simply by way of a low-response-rate survey.

I'm guessing it's a low-response rate as 34 does not seem to be very representative.

How many people received the survey?

At any rate, this isn't the same thing as a formal vote by the membership, so you are free to discount whatever replies you consider questionable, and you don't even need to justify it.

The survey is simply a planning tool. One of several planning tools I hope your BOD is using.
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
michele nailed it.. it's a tool, not a vote. it should GUIDE the board, not bind them.

DeeS1 (Michigan)
Posts: 223
Posted:
Sheila:

We do a survey each year and make it clear that it is NOT a vote on the survey itself. It is very helpful and full of surprises each year. I think it is great that you guys are taking the time to get some feedback. That said, I agree with the other posters ... it's just a tool for you to use. There are many things that HOs do not know that complete the "big picture" and that's what the board is there for.

I think it's an interesting factor to consider when evaluating your results, but nothing more. We have multiple homes owned by the same person, but we let them fill out a survey for each home, as they would also have multiple votes in a formal voting situation. The same is true for our new builder who owns several lots.

Do you know that the surveys got to each household? If yes, and they determined to let one person fill them out, I don't think it's a problem. If, on the otherhand, the board member didn't give them out and just completed them for other family members, that's a little less above reproach.

MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Plus, Dee, Sheila does not have enough feedback from the residents to form much of a business plan, or even a priorities schedule, depending on how many residents are in her development.

All she has is feedback from either the most vocal minority or from those who have a particular interest in the items being questioned.

Because the others may not have the same interests doesn't mean they don't have an idea of what the HOA priorities should be.

In fact, depending on the questions asked, NO response may well be a response in and of itself.

They may be saying, "Keep things just the way they are."
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Thanks for the response everyone! I was speaking to our president as I read them – she spoke to the board member, who said the family got together a few weeks ago (most live out of state) and discussed the survey and voted accordingly. It still doesn’t explain the same handwriting, but we may go ahead and count this stuff. Now that the board member knows our concerns, I’m hoping he’ll forward this to his family, and maybe next year, they’ll fill out the thing themselves.

We’re not required to do a survey, but do use it as a guide to set priorities (along with the usual stuff). To wit, we’ve decided to go ahead and budget for replacing the playground equipment because many surveyors also complained about the kids playing in the street. Between the pool’s closing this year and the playground equipment being torn down (partly because older children and teens vandalized it), the community isn’t very child friendly right now. We’re hoping by getting more durable equipment, the street playing will be reduced.

You’re also correct that 34 isn’t a huge representation of the community, as there are about 300 residents and everyone (including the renters) got a survey. However, we’ve gotten an average of 13 surveys in the past, so ANY increase in the numbers is good.

Since the pool is going to be closed next year, our documents do require a formal homeowner vote on whether to close it permanently or reopen it – I’ve suggested to the board that we should plan on scheduling a special homeowners meeting sometime next year to debate the issue and then hold an election (maybe we can finally get our CCRs revised while we’re at it).

As for the vocal minority (the family owning the multiple homes), they really haven’t said a lot in the past few years. We’ve worked hard in explaining to homeowners why things are happening and if they’re unhappy, they can always replace the board or volunteer to serve on an advisory committee (of course, no one has.) I don’t know why more people don’t speak up – their silence could be interpreted as “keep things the way they are” or “I’m not happy, but I’m not going to stick my neck out and actually do some work, either.”

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
DeeS1 (Michigan)
Posts: 223
Posted:
Sheila:

Michele has some good points. I'm not a statiscion, but would expect that depending on the size of your community, you'd want to get a response rate at least in the 60-70% range to make any accurate perdictions.

I do agree that you often hear from the vocal minority, etc. most in response rates lower than that, however, our experience was that it only took one year to go from a 10% RR to over 60% when we identified some budget decisions as "based on the survey results" Take away the entrance mums for one season :-) and everyone is the vocal minority and participates the next year :-) ...

In all seriousness, even if they are not relied on as votes, the surveys are extrememly good tools (even with a low response rate) to show the community that you are trying to factor in the community needs/wishes and not just some dictitorial board. Just be sure to couple the results with good, informed business decisions since you have a larger picture that the average HO.

In my survey research, it was suggested that we would have a more accurate representation of the community's responses if we did a smaller RANDOM sampling via phone ... even if we only did 10 calls or so. This filters out the vocal minority/issue related responses and gives you a more accurate picture of the whole community... as odd as that seems.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
In all seriousness, Sheila, I wasn't implying in any way, shape or form that the doctored "votes" were the "vocal minority."

No, rather it's worse than that.

All 34 replies are the "vocal minority," and, even though 34 is better than 13, it's a pretty worthless planning tool with a response rate that low.

To direct your priorities based on 34 out of 300 (and half of those are already questionable at best), is not very good planning.

It's nice to have them, for sure.

ANY feedback from residents is valued!

It's just those particular surveys, because the response is so low, cannot in any way help shape your planning process.

I really think it's time to re-think your survey process and the questions asked.

You may want to provide some incentive for participation.

Just be careful basing too much on the 34 who responded. The board has to think broader and more inclusive, even if the residents themselves perpetuate their apathy.

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