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CarolB6 (California)
Posts: 6
Posted:
In the process of changing the CC&R's. Seven members on Board, four of the board members (making the majority) wants to change eligibility to run for the board that you must be a full-time resident. Two-thirds of the homeowners are half time. How many of the Associations have a clause like this in CC&R. Is it legal to to eliminte more than half of the homeowners from running for the Board.
CharlieM (California)
Posts: 42
Posted:
In our docs that would require a vote from the membership of which 66% would have to vote in the affirmative. A non vote would be the same as a no vote.

Check your documents. Our requirement is more common than not.
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
Carol:

Do all your current Board members live full-time on the property?

Do your documents require the unit owners vote on these changes? Most do.

Do those 4 Board members believe the unit owners that are now prevented from serving on the Board will support these changes?

On our property we have had several former and present Board members who do not reside on the property. Why would your current Board members wish to exclude these fellow owners?

My questions would be:

Will this attempt pass with unit owner approval?

Is it in fact legal to prevent a property owner from serving on a Board? My opinion no.

Is such an action ethical? no.

Good luck.

RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Carol, obviously you want to achieve is having Board members present for Board meetings; but I doubt that your solution is legal. Since 2/3 of the homeowners are only half time residents perhaps one solution is to modify the Bylaws to be able to conduct meetings by teleconference. Or you might select a nominating committee and have the members of the nominating committee screen candidates with an important criteria being their eligibility to attend Board meetings.

Check requirements related to Board members; these are usually in the Bylaws, not the CC&Rs. If that is your situation you also amend the Bylaws to state that if a Board member misses two consecutive Board meeting they will automatically be terminated as a Board member. You may also have to reduce the number of Board members in order to achieve a quorum.
CarolB6 (California)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Thanks for your reply. We do have teleconference meetings. But the four members say that is not good enough. Members on the board should live full-time in the condo association. The CC&Rs and bylaws are being changed. Thanks for your suggestions,
CarolB6 (California)
Posts: 6
Posted:
The reason for my question. is that the attorney working with the Board on the changes to CC&R and bylaws says that the Board can put anything they want in these documents. I can't believe that attorney would recommend this. We do have teleconferences meetings, work very well. Yes the documents do have to be approved by the homeowners. Our fear is that the homeowners will not read the documents and just them off. Thanks for your input. It gives a group of us support to fight this matter. Carol
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Carol,

Well, the BOD has stated the attorney made that remark, but that doesn't mean he did! This happens far too often. The board puts the blame on the attorney when in fact it's they who are making the decision. In this case, although it may not be illegal (I'm not an attorney so I don't really know), it smacks of being unethical to strip away a member's right to run for a position on the board just because he doesn't live on-site. That, in itself, is not a violation of the gov docs, like being inviolation of the CCRs or delinquent in assessments, which may be other reasons for not being able to run for a board position. Living off-site doesn't mean living in another state and being unable to attend meetings either.

Roger mentioned a rule which automatically removes a board member who misses a certain amount of meetings. Usually that rule only applies to "unapproved" absences.

Just because some members don't like to teleconference doesn't mean this rule should be adopted. Board members come and go; rules should be made for the benefit of the assn, not to address the whims of a few board members.

While I'm sure an amendment to the CCRs requires a vote of the members (usually a very high % too!), do your bylaws also require a member vote to amend? Many assn bylaws can be amended by a vote of the BOD only. IMO, this particular proposed amendment would be found in the bylaws, not the CCRs.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
As was pointed out by another poster, while the law in California allows the Association to set the criteria to run for the BOD there is a Catch - 22. They can't set any rule that would prohibit a member from nominating themselves for the Board. (Bold by me)

Civil Code ยง1363.03. Election Procedures, Secret Ballots, Inspectors of Election.

(3) Specify the qualifications for candidates for the board of directors and any other elected position, and procedures for the nomination of candidates, consistent with the governing documents. A nomination or election procedure shall not be deemed reasonable if it disallows any member of the association from nominating himself or herself for election to the board of directors.

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CarolB6 (California)
Posts: 6
Posted:
You are right about board members in the Bylaws. We are changing the bylaws and CC&Rs. Thank you for your input. Here's the problem:
1. Lawyer working on these doc told the Board they could be anything they wanted in the bylaws and CC&R's. Can't beleive an attorney would give this give of advice.
2. These documents will be mailed out for approval. If they are not accepted, we will have to go back correct the doc and mail again. Expensive.
3. This Board wants to run the Association as they have been doing for a long. Some homeowners joined together to change things. We can only get one new member on each year. We have two so far but they still have the majority. Thanks again for your input.

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