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GordonD1 (California)
Posts: 131
Posted:
Presently, we are about to finish the paint project for our recreation facility that involves the pool house, patios, fencing, etc.

Part of the project was to paint the pool/spa utility doors. One board member wanted the hinges on the utility doors to be changed.

The vendor has maintained from the very beginning that the hinges are a very good quality of stainless steel and they still have a minimum
remaining life of 7 years. They also explained that these hinges will outlast the utility doors. The price to change the hinges is $260. The
board member that wants to change them convinced 3 other board members it should be done.

The directors that voted for this felt that it was not a lot of money to spend. The vendor is about to start the painting of the utility doors.

Once again, they indicated there is no reason to change them as the hinges are in excellent condition. Let's save a little money as it is very obvious
that the hinges don't need to be replaced. My fiduciary duty compels me to try and save a few dollars on behalf of our community. To me, it's the
principle, not the amount. New hinges are simply not needed. Some of the board members feel that since we agreed on this expense before, we should
do it. That is short-sighted and not a very good excuse. At the time of voting, we didn't have as much information as we have at the present time.
There is nothing wrong revisiting an item, especially if it can save money and in no way shortchanges the community. It appears this board member
does not want to do the right thing simply for some foolish pride, or something?

I really don't wish to waste time with this issue? But my point is crystal clear. Why fix it if it is not broken? Even the vendor does not understand
why these hinges would be changed. I am very curious of your input. Sorry if I have a hard time letting it go. Even our property manager encourage us
to follow the vendor's advice.

Thank you very much,

Gordon
CathyC4 (Colorado)
Posts: 14
Posted:
laughing, is someone related to the vendor? Sorry, I'm thinking everyone is a bit crooked
GordonD1 (California)
Posts: 131
Posted:
Hi Cathy,

The vendor is not recommending the change of the hinges. The vendor is not related to anyone. Respectfully, I don't think you read my topic correctly.

Regards,

Gordon
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Gordon, I agree with you. It sounds like a frivolous waste of money. If it ain't broke......fits perfectly.

I wish I could give you some advise on how to get the others to change their minds; but now that you have more information I'd insist that it would be throwing money away.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Well, you can certainly insist what you want, and make your disapproval known and written into the record.

But at the end of the day, if the board has more votes for the hinge replacement than against the hinge replacement, the hinges get replaced.

I have no idea why they would be so insistent, but you have followed your fiduciary duty by voicing and recording your objection.

It's probably not the right battle to throw yourself on the sword over.

I would simply file this away for future reference when the time comes that you may need to rally some external support for your position.

Chances are, with decision-making skills like this from your board, you are going to need it.
TracieS (Colorado)
Posts: 460
Posted:
But what to do about the previous vote/signed contract? (if there was a vote, and if there is a signed contract)

Waste of money tends to be in the eye of the beholder. They have 7 useful years of life left. What will the new ones have? What is the current style of hinge versus the to-be-installed? What is the total percentage of your budget allocated to hinge replacement?
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
IMHO - the life of the hinges should be the same as the doors. You said the hinges will last 7 years more? Are you saying that the doors will last only 7 years? That doesn't seem right.

GordonD1 (California)
Posts: 131
Posted:
Hello All,

The doors are not in good condition. The doors will only last 3 or 4 years maximum. The present hinges will last 7 years minimum. We never signed a contract for the hinges. In fact the vendor
has recommended that we do not need new hinges. We voted via e-mail.

Thank you very much for the good input.

Gordon

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