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MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
We are fortunate that our HOA does NOT restrict roofing materials for the main structure. We have an architectural guideline that does not allow metal roofs on outbuildings, but a previous ARC chair approved one anyway, so that pretty much neuters that guideline.

At any rate, I know that some HOAs restrict roofing materials. I'm wondering now that metal roof "technology" has improved and metal roofs can be (and usually are) very energy efficient and, let's face it, last for decades, if that is changing.

As I mentioned, I suppose we are lucky because we don't have to jump through any hoops for ours. Since we just had our installed I thought I'd share.

We love our new metal roof. As you can see, the shingles look very similar to typical asphalt shingles. When we get the solar arrays installed on the back, I'll try to share those as well. PS: That is my son-in-law's gas guzzler SUV next to my gas-efficient Hybrid in the driveway!







DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

AWESOME!!! The new roofs are so efficient, sound retardant and long lasting. My HOA townhouse in Florida has the concrete barrel tiles which after every hurricane or just randomly, crack or slide off.

When I sent info to the Board about replacing roofs with these tiles, they went nuts and I do mean nuts. You know the story Michelle---"BUT WE ALWAYS DO IT THIS WAY"

So thanks for the photos and I am sending your house down to Florida
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Michele, what type and manufacturer is your metal roof. I like the stone coated steel roofing material which has been on the market over 15 years and has a lifetime warranty.
TracieS (Colorado)
Posts: 460
Posted:
WOW! That looks just like regular roofing!

We don't have any restrictions for our roofs (we're townhomes, so the association would make that decision, either with or without owner input), but jeez, your pictures REALLY make me want to investigate for when we get re-roofed!

Costwise...more or less than asphalt shingles?

Life...more or less than asphalt shingles?

When I heard of metal roofing, I pictured something else ENTIRELY! I had no idea it could look so "normal".
TracieS (Colorado)
Posts: 460
Posted:
To follow up on my question re: cost...

My brand-spanking new Reserve Study gives me the following info for the roofs of our units...
Roof is approx 14,500 GSF.
Best Case Replace Estimate: $36,300 ($2.50/GSF)
Worst Case Replace Estimate: $39,900 ($2.75/GSF)

Would my upper limit estimates come close to the cost of metal roof? Or, would it be more in the $3.00/GSF range - or jeez, hopefully not more than that!?

To make matters more interesting, our roofing materials have been discontinued, so next time anything needs to be done, it'll ALL come off anyway.

Of course...we pray for a hailstorm all the time! I wonder if insurance would cover us to replace asphalt after a hailstorm with metal... Hmmm...
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Michelle....why do you have to do this???? Just to make us poor, deprived condo owners jealous???

I LOVE IT!!!! Beautiful! I've now seen photos of YOUR house AND Donna's house. Robert, I'd prefer to not see a photo of your Oceanfront Resort-style Condo Complex on the beach either.

You all would GAG if I posted a photo of our two, two-story buildings sitting in a sandpit, on a highway, (but ONE MILE from the beach!) on the gulf coast of Florida.

I'm jealous---in case you can't tell.

I'm happy for you Michelle! It's STUNNING!
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Well, a couple things about our metal roof.

The manufacturer puts a sort of powder coating finish that gives it the same granular/sparkly effect that asphalt shingles have.

But you can get the roof in a variety of colors and styles. This particular manufacturer fabricates their own roofing and they have "molds," or whatever it's called that can mimic asphalt shingles, cedar shake shingles, slate and tile shingles.

To answer your two questions:

The cost in relation to asphalt is a tad more expensive up front, but since the roof is guaranteed upwards of 75 to 100 years, you don't have to replace it every 8 to 10 years like you may have to with asphalt.

Not only do they use recycled materials to fabricate the roofing, you also save on energy costs as well since metal roofs reflect more energy away from the building so your attics don't heat up. They act as a thermal barrier. Some companies claim as much as 25% savings in your energy bills. We'll see. My husband has an excel spreadsheet that breaks down our energy bills over the past 3 years. He'll be conducting a very thorough comparison! LOL!

They also are pretty much "Mother Nature" proof, too. In fact, I think in Texas (and maybe a few other places) you can get a break on your insurance, sometimes as much as 15%, if you convert to a metal roof. This has been a big push after all the recent hurricanes. Since they are fairly new to this particular area, and we aren't in hurricane or hail alley, our insurance company just shrugged at us. But they were the ones who told us that if we lived in Texas, it would be a different matter. Oh well. Not moving just to get an insurance break!

Plus, no matter what kind of shape or how many "layers" of asphalt shingles you have, most of the time you can place these roofs right on top of the old roof, which saves the cost of removing the old one. Of course if you have some areas where the actual wood needs to be replaced, that changes things.

Oh, I forgot, we're getting a $500 tax credit from the government for the roofing. We will be getting an additional tax credit for the solar array installation.

Tracie, I don't have the answer re: cost/gsf in front of me. But I do know this, our insurance company gave us a check to replace our roof because we needed to after this past summer's storms. Even though it didn't cover the cost of the metal roof, we of course applied it to the roof, so that lowered the up-front costs.

And remember, we will never have to replace it! Ever!
CarolF (Florida)
Posts: 435
Posted:
Is there anything in the specs that preclude use in close proximity to the ocean?
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Carol: Not that I'm aware of.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Carol,

That is a good question. Those who live within a mile or so of the oceans, deal with salt erosion of all metals. It is amazing that interior nuts and bolts in the construction of buildings, even corrodes.Stainless steel has probably the longest lifespan but these ppowdercoated metals might just work as well. I'll work on that info
RickW (Illinois)
Posts: 169
Posted:
Wow! I'm an architect specializing in residential architecture and I never knew metals roofing has evolved to this! With the work I do, budgets are high, and it tends to be a lot about asethetics. I'm not sure this would fly for my clients, but I am all over it for my townhome complex. We are in the process of replacing some wood siding with composite material because it will not rot and has a 30 year warranty. To be able to add to the green environment is just a win-win situation for everyone.

I'm in Illinois and our complex is about 9 years old, so we still have a few years before roof replacement will be required. However, we are in the process of updating our Reserve Study and definitely will ask them to report on the difference in cost to switch from ashpalt shingles to metal roofing. The association is responsible for replacing the roofs in our complex and to be able to install this type of roofing would be terrific. It would certainly help property values and sales of townhomes as well as energy efficiency!

Most of you have repsonded to this thread are from the south. I'm wondering if the same benefits would accur in the midwest where I am at. The weather conditions are different, but I don't see why this wouldn't be more than applicable in my neck of the woods.

Thanks for submitting the photos, they defintely seel the idea!
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Well, I don't know how "South" Kentucky is. Borderline, I guess. I know we have wicked cold and snowy winters!

The company that we went with is based in Indianapolis. They are just now branching down into our area. They mostly work around the upper part of Indiana.

Oh, and we are also installing soy-based insulation in the attic to help control energy costs, too.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Michele,

Thx for this info; I'm passing it on to my BOD (the treas is chm of the architectural committee).

Terry is enamored with metal roofs and says it would be his choice if we ever have to replace ours. All the roofs in our HOA are slate. In my s/d they are all the same color, except for a few custom homes. The problem with slate roofs is that, although the slate may last a lifetime, the lining must be replaced every 15-20 years which is very costly.
BonnieE (Illinois)
Posts: 338
Posted:
Michele – your new roof looks great! I will share with our BOD (but will not hold my breath..LOL)

Rick and anyone else interested: there is some good information on green products/remodeling on the website/and in the magazine:

http://www.naturalhomemagazine.com/

And can also check:

http://www.epa.gov/greenbuilding/index.htm

http://www.epa.gov/greenbuilding/pubs/buildingtypes.htm#homes

-Bonnie
KevinK7 (Florida)
Posts: 1,343
Posted:
You should email this to a homeowners association in my neighborhood. They are currently suing a homeowner with a metal roof because they think it is "ugly" and because the modification was made right after the hurricanes and they did not have an opportunity to review it (even though the home is in a different section with no HOA or ARC)!
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:


Kevin,

SAY WHAT??? No HOA or ARC means that your HOA has no say in what goes on outside of yours, unless of code or zoning laws. Maybe I think that the roof looks nice so beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but not in the eyes of a neighboring HOA.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
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Posted By MaryA1 on 10/08/2009 7:30 AM
Michele,

Thx for this info; I'm passing it on to my BOD (the treas is chm of the architectural committee).

Terry is enamored with metal roofs and says it would be his choice if we ever have to replace ours. All the roofs in our HOA are slate. In my s/d they are all the same color, except for a few custom homes. The problem with slate roofs is that, although the slate may last a lifetime, the lining must be replaced every 15-20 years which is very costly.

The good news is that the company that fabricated our roof, as well as a few other companies, has metal roofing that mimics slate, in a range of colors.

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MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Kevin, have I mentioned recently that I don't care for your HOA?
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Michellen

NO!, you have not mentioned that recently but Kev's post reminds us of it.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Michele,

Well, that sure do look like slate!! Do you have pics of a metal roof that mimics tile as that is what all of our roofs are? Thx!!
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
What kind of tile? Do you mean like clay tile?

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I think this is the tile version in a copper finish:

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There is certainly a lot more flexibility with metal than I ever dreamed possible!
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Michele,

Thx! I'm sending the first pic to my BOD as it looks exactly like the tile roofs in my s/d.
RickW (Illinois)
Posts: 169
Posted:
Thanks to everyone that had provided information on this thread. This seems like a reasonable semi-cost effective way to begin to green our complex. It would be terrific to determine cost factoring in energy savings and tax credits to determine the real cost compared to other roofing types over a 5-10 year period.

We are in the process of updating our reserve study. We've forwarded info onto the company preparing the update and hope to receive their thoughts on the switch of roofing materials as well as some sort of way to determine cost implications. We have 5-10 years until roof replacement should need to be considered. A lot of things might change by then, technology advances further, tax credits and energy savings change, economy...it will be interesting to see where we end up when our roofs are needing to be replaced!

KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
Michelle,

You may already know this, but check with your electric distribution company about rebates from them. For instance in my area the electric company will rebate $2.46 per watt. From what I can figure in this area that and the federal tax credit about half the cost will repay within the first year.

I am saving up for the same at my house. I think that within a few years we will see time based pricing the norm in Texas. And if it is anything like the first offer I saw those panels will repay in little time. (TXU is pushing a plan that charges 8.9 cents off peak and 23.7 cents on peak.)
DJ1 (Ontario)
Posts: 798
Posted:
We've considered metal roofing since we had our house built and the new roof leaked repeatedly since day one.

In researching it, we found some metail roofing installers will run ~1X2" wood strips to secure the metal roofing onto the roof. This provides a small air barrier. Others will install the metal roofing directly to the flat surface. One might reduce the noise when rain hits it.

One concern we've heard, whether it is aluminum or steel with stone coating, is that the screws need to be tightened every few years due to the expansion/contraction of the metal roofing.

Did you hear anything about maintenance issues like this?

Although we've seen the 50 + year warranties, they are meaningless since a company that goes out of business can't be made to honour a warranty.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
DJ:

I'm not aware of installers who do the wood stripping. I think it may really depend on the type of roof, whether the vertical standing seam, or the ones that look like cedar shake.

The company we went with installs a type of sheeting overtop of the existing asphalt shingles first. It is coated on one side and has a sort of "finish" on the other. I don't really know how to describe it.

The screws are installed with a thick rubber ring around them, sort of like a rubberized washer that I'm assuming is meant to accommodate the weather changes over the years?

We haven't heard anything like needing the type of maintenance you're talking about, but we can ask. (They are not finished with our project yet as we have the roofing over our bay window that needs to be completed and then the solar panels installed.)

The caveat about the company being around is a good one and applies really to any company you do business with for anything you are spending considerable money on.

My husband researched local companies and in the end selected one about 150 miles away.

It's been around for about 20 or 30 years, so we're pretty comfortable with them. So far!
DavidC24 (Florida)
Posts: 31
Posted:
I had not realized metal roofing have evolved so much either. Our governing docs require architectural shingles which is nice but we are exploring the possibly to amend them for metal roofing. Your post provides very nice evidence to support an amendment to our docs.
MarianneG (Indiana)
Posts: 170
Posted:
Michele, Thank you for sharing these photos of your beautiful home and beautiful metal roof. Since we are re-looking architectural review policies (and I think we need to consider adding energy-efficient possibilities to our standards), I will share some of the information you and others have provided here. It's probably a good time for most HOAs to think about more energy efficiency in our homes. Many thanks.

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