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MikeC14 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
I'm a board member in a Florida HOA.

Last year, 2008, our members voted to remove Reserves and apply them to the 2009 quarterly maintainance payments. This way each quarterly maintainance payments would be reduced. At the time of the vote, (ballot) it was shown what the maintainance payments would be with and without a "Yes" vote in favor of using the Reserves.

Rather than removing the money, the Tresaurer deducted a pro rated amount, each month from what was suppossed to be put into the 2009 Reserves. In other words, he defunded the 2009 Reserves by what was authorized by the membership on a prorata basis. This was done each month in 2009.

We are now in September 2009 and all the quarterly maintainance payments have been collected. I was just informed yesterday that he unilaterally removed an additional sum of money from the Reserves to pay outstanding bills without a membership or board vote. His claim is that the money was never really taken out of the Reserves and that this will be a "Bridge Loan" until we collect more of the 2009 4th quarter installments to pay ourselves back. My contention is that in fact it was unauthorized removal of Reserve funds as each month the 2009 Reserves were defunded.

My questions; 1) Do you think that I as a board member have an obligation to reprot this to the DBPR in Florida?

2) If not what is my obligation, if any?

3) What if any remedy exists that we can seek to resolve this matter?

4) Can I get in trouble for this if I do not report it?

Thanks,

Mike
PeterB1 (Florida)
Posts: 257
Posted:
Mike,

Florida Statute 720 is very detailed and very specific about the subject of reserves. It should be mandatory reading for all Board members. It does address many of your concerns.

1. A vote to 'un-reserve' is only valid for one budget year. Then the membership must vote again.
2. Any removal of funds from the reserves (that was not approved by the membership) specifically violates the provisions of 720.
3. As you are a Board member, you have a fiduciary responsibility to the Association.That means you can't sit by and do nothing. You certainly need to advise the Board of the provisions of the Statute.

I think it best if you work with the Board (including the President). It may be that they require some education as to the provisions of Florida Statute 720. Should they choose to continue to ignore 720, you have a whole different problem.

The entire text of the Statute is online. Please read it!

peter
MikeC14 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Peter,

Thanks for your reply. I have read it and know exactly which section discusses the requirement of a membership vote to access Reserves for other purposes. I've advised the board and included a copy of the section. It's being ignored!

Mike
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Mike,

Since the BOD has chosen to ignore state law you need to go on record that you do not agree with their decision. Then you need to inform the board that if they don't amend their ways the membership will be apprised of their violation of state law and perhaps even the State agency. You may also want to give them a little lecture regarding their fiduciary duty to the assn and what the consequences may be if they violate it. Also, let them know that you are not going to be a party to any lawsuit that may arise from their irresponsible behavior. Insist that everything you say to try to get them to change their errant ways is made a part of the record.
EllenS1 (Florida)
Posts: 1,148
Posted:
Mile,

Every time I hear the word "unilateral" I cringe. No board member should act alone though many try. I would advise the board that messing with reserve funds is a serious business and if they don't follow the law they will most certainly be reported. Florida has strict laws regarding reserve funds for hoas over a certain number of owners. We all know most owners pay little attention to hoa matters until if affects their pocketbook and it is up to you to represent them.

Reserve funds are exactly that, for capital improvements, etc and not for day to day operating expenses and cannot be used for anything else without a vote of all members.

In addition I would notify all owners by fliers or whatever and let them know what "their" treasurer is doing.

How can you get in trouble by doing what is right?
RobertB20 (Florida)
Posts: 39
Posted:
Mike I would advise you to get to to DBPR immediately, You can't plead stupidity as a Board member, you are responsible under #720 and your communities By-Laws if it states what you say.Contact an attorney to protect yourself from any criminal or civil problems which you may face down the road which this Board has committed. You have a fudiciary responsibility under #720 and to the members of your community. I would suggest you take all documentation you have and make your complaint and let the State handle and investigate the violations you have stated. You state your Board members are ignoring you completely. Attempting to education them as to what they are doing wrong has fallen on deaf ears. You will be caught in a Charlettes web if and when the state is informed of your communities problems. What will you do then as I have said plead "stupidity" and say you knew nothing?? That is not going to fly, if there is any documentation which you say you have and the knowledge of what has exactly happened which you have explained in your questions again I can only say get to the State with (Documentation), minutes, financials, etc as fast as you can driving however legally.

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