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DeeD1 (Tennessee)
Posts: 6
Posted:
The President of the HOA has sent proxy letters for that last 2 years with his name on it as the person designated to vote on behalf of the homeowners. Last year he voted himself in as president, his mom as secretary and his business partner as director. He won't keep the common areas clean, crime is steadily on the rise and he won't show us the budget. It is now time to elect another director and he has probably taken on a new business partner that he wants to elect as the new director. Iam trying to stop him from getting the Proxies he needs to rig the election again. Many of our homeowners are not tuned in enough to this situation to avoid it. We were oblivios to his scheme until it happened. We want to be a step ahead and stop the election rigging before it happens again. Can a non-board member send out a proxy that allows each homeowner to designate another homeowner, and not the President, to vote on ther behalf?
TracieS (Colorado)
Posts: 460
Posted:
Hi DeeDee,

Welcome. Perhaps one thing that could help is if the members/owners in your association had a better understanding of exactly what a proxy is and how it works.

Do your founding documents (Articles of Incorporation, Bylaws, CC&Rs) say ANYTHING about proxy use?

Also, a bit more about your community...how many units/homes, single-family or condo, when transition happened from the developer, etc...
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

DeeD,

Proxies belong to the person who signs it over to another person. You can go thru the neighborhood and gather as many or more than this guy and use them wisely. Better yet, get the neighborhood to attend the meeting for the election. Where are you in Tn and what type of association are you? Condo, stand alone homes or what. This sounds like because no one has done anything to prevent the dictator from running your show.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
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DeeD, the use of proxies should be set out in your bylaws. You should probably start there.

But, generally, anyone can assign their proxy to whomever they chose, within certain parameters.

Most HOAs require that the proxy holder be a member of the association. Some don't make that distinction.

By the way, what he is doing is not so much "rigging" the election as it is exploiting the membership's apathy. That's hardly illegal.

I'm not too keen on your phrasing that you are trying to "stop" him from getting the proxies.

If your governing documents allow for proxies, he has every right to obtain them, if people are willing to give them to him.

Also, how many directors does your governing documents say the HOA can have?

Do you have an alternative to elect to the board of directors? Would that be you willing to go out, knock on doors, secure enough proxies for election to the board, and then work to better the community?

One other question, I'm not sure that it's within an HOA board's job description to keep the neighborhood crime stats low.

If crime is on the rise, you might first try to speak to your mayor and/or police chief (or local district) to see what all of you can do to help reduce crime.

But that's probably a separate topic.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Dee,

It's not uncommon for the BOD to "require" proxies to be given only to a board member. I don't believe this is legal but many do get away with doing this. Is this what your board Pres is doing? If so, I would get a group of members together to speak at a board meeting to object to this procedure. Let the BOD know that the members feel they should be able to give their proxy to any other member of their choosing. Also let them know that if they insist on doing something the members are vehemently opposed to they can be recalled (see last para below)!

On the other hand, if the Board Pres is only "soliciting" proxies then he is only exercising his right to do so. Any member of the assn can do this just make sure you get a head start on the Pres. I would advise going door-to-door to ask members to give their proxy to you. Better yet would be to advise members to attend the meeting and cast their own vote. Check your bylaws to see if ballots can be mailed-in. If so, let the members know they can do this if they cannot attend the meeting.

Exactly what do your bylaws say about board members. Do they have to be members of the assn? If so, how is it that the board Pres can rig the election so that his Mom and his business partner are board members? Is this just a 3-member board?

Have you ever heard of a recall? Perhaps this is something you should check into. Read your bylaws, it should say something about recalling a board member.
MichaelK11 (Texas)
Posts: 432
Posted:
Do you have a copy of your Bylaws or Declarations? This is different for every HOA, but should be in your Bylaws.

How many homes in your HOA. Do you pay dues? Have a management company?

How many Directors and Officers is your HOA supposed to have on the BoD? Is there an annual meeting of Members? Are there open meetings of the BoD, if there is one? Is your HOA incorporated? Is there a procedure for nominations to the BoD?

If this is accurate, you should also speak with an attorney. What you describe probably violates your state's corporation laws, if the HOA is incorporated. You can probably find those statutes on-line.

In general, I suspect the answer is yes -- anyone may send proxies designating himself or another homeowner. You probably need to read your Bylaws carefully to follow the correct procedure. You should probably work with other homeowners to make a slate of candidates for a complete Board of Directors, rather than just a different Pres and Sec.

Your Bylaws and state corporation laws probably require the HOA to provide records (such as budget and financials and meeting minutes on request, but enforcing that if they don't comply may be difficult.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
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Posted By DonnaS on 08/21/2009 8:10 AM
This sounds like because no one has done anything to prevent the dictator from running your show.

Donna, I hesitate to jump to the conclusion that the director is a dictator.

I think DeeD is a very frustrated homeowner.

I also think she comes to the table with some preconceived notions about what an HOA is, what the board does, and what they (the membership) expect the board to do.

I think the membership of this association is the typical one with a great number of uninvolved neighbors.

It would help to understand the type of development that is involved, how old it is and how large it is.

Maybe we can inspire DeeD to learn about her documents, learn about her role and the board's role in an HOA, and get her fired up to run and effect some change. Perhaps she can inspire some other members to want to be a part of working actively to maintain their investments in their properties and be a part of the board as well!

Then maybe a director that is perceived as a "dictator" can receive some much needed help and perhaps he can even take a cruise with his mom, knowing the HOA (and his own investment) is in good hands!
DeeD1 (Tennessee)
Posts: 6
Posted:
I don't have the articles regarding proxies with me. Our HOA bylas are very vague. There are about 80 singel-family homes in our subdivision with 20 incomplete lots. I forgot to mention that the President is also the developer. We are clueless on how to stop him. I fear the he is trying to elect another business partner. He elected himself last year and has completed one year of a three year term. There are heated arguments at our annual meeting. He has been asked to step down and he refuses. We believe that he has elected himself so that he can retain power over the subdivision business is slow and he is not selling any homes. We reached the point where he was going to turn the subdivision over to an official HOA. Well he became the official HOA and is now still over the subdivision
DeeD1 (Tennessee)
Posts: 6
Posted:
I will re-read the bylaws. We (homeowners) are seeking direction on how to have an effective HOA that works for the community as a whole. Since he is the developer and the President, there clearly seems to be a conflict of interest and as homeowners, we feel that he is putting is "investments" over our interests. He does live in the subdivision and he has several vacant homes for sale as well as many undeveloped lots. He refuses to work with the community on any community events. Crime-fighting is not in his job description but he should be involved in the safety and welfare of the community or at least step aside and let the community work towards some of our common goals such as enforcing trash removal/storage rules, resolving street parking issues, maintenance of the common areas, and cutting down on crime, etc. Our HOA dues went up last year by $25 and we have nothing to show for it. He is asking that homeowners cut the common areas near their homes and that we use money out of our pockets to beautify the subdivision entrance..........I'm not sure that dictator is too strong of a word. It seems to fit
DeeD1 (Tennessee)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Can we white-out or alter the original Proxy that has the President/Developer's name typed? Or can we distribute a new Proxy that has a blank space that will be used to write in the person's name that is designated to cast the vote on the owner's behalf.

I have been searching online all morning for information on Tennessee's HOA laws and rules and I can't find anything. Can someone point me in the right direction.

Thanks
TracieS (Colorado)
Posts: 460
Posted:
DeeD...

So, the director in question is the DEVELOPER? Has transition occured yet?
DeeD1 (Tennessee)
Posts: 6
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Yes, the President is the Director. He is using the title of President. The subdivision was supposed to transfer over once 75% of the homes were completed. He changed the number to 90% and then he changed it again, established the HOA and elected himself as President to further retain power Since the housing market took a turn for the worse, he had stopped building for almost a year (he has recently started building again). He won't keep the grass cut on the vacant lots he owns or common areas. And has no real involvment with the community except during an election period.
TracieS (Colorado)
Posts: 460
Posted:
Use the search feature (upper right hand corner) and search for developer or transition.

I'm afraid your Developer is in control of your association right now until turnover happens. My association was turned over 25 years ago, so I have no experience with dealing with the developer while awaiting turnover. Others may, and the search feature has a lot of information. Good luck, and just cross your fingers for early turnover.
MichaelK11 (Texas)
Posts: 432
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Posted By DeeD1 on 08/21/2009 8:41 AM
Can we white-out or alter the original Proxy that has the President/Developer's name typed? Or can we distribute a new Proxy that has a blank space that will be used to write in the person's name that is designated to cast the vote on the owner's behalf.

I have been searching online all morning for information on Tennessee's HOA laws and rules and I can't find anything. Can someone point me in the right direction.
I suspect that scratch-out and replace or write-in would be legal, although it may be something that could be questioned or that he could use as an excuse to ignore. Sounds like he can speak with confidence, and as soon as he comes up with something, you would find it difficult to convince or dominate him.

You really should get advice of an attorney on this, and it will depend on details in your Bylaws. You could post the relevant sections of your Bylaws here for people to review.

I distributed alternate proxies. I could send you the language we used. Best to get the language from the current proxies in use or a template from your state gov or Bar Assoc or corp help site of some kind. We copied language from our BoD's proxies, and modified it for our purposes.

We changed the name of the designated proxy-holder (voter) from the name of the HOA Secretary to one of our group of homeowners.
We made sure the proxy stated that it superceded any prior proxies (meaning any proxy the homeowner had signed at an earlier date).
We made sure the proxy was valid for several HOA meetings within a few months, in case there was no quorum at the first meeting, and it had to be continued at a later meeting. These are all standard elements of our proxies.

The regular BoD proxies had a ballot; the proxy required voting for the candidates that the homeowner selected on the proxy, but empowered the HOA Secretary to decide how to vote for the homeowner on any other matter. Our alternate proxies simply gave our designated homeowner the power to vote for the signing homeowner, since we did not know what would come up or who would be nominated to run for the BoD.

You might go the other way. Do your Developer's proxies just empower him to vote as he pleases? That would clearly explain how he is empowered to chose the rest of the BoD. (Do his mother and business partner own homes? Our Bylaws don't require that Directors be Members (homeowners), although I think they always have been. Also, he may assign ownership of unsold lots to them.

Anyway, you may wish to run and get other homeowners to run for the BoD. You may wish to put a slate of candidates on a ballot directly on your proxies. If homeowners not only sign over their proxy to you or other designated homeowner, but also vote for specific homeowners on your slate, then it may be a much stronger and clearer indication of support (although legally, it's still just single votes).

We took our proxies door-to-door to collect signatures. If we did it again, we would send and receive them by mail, as the BoD does, but we might also go door-to-door. We would distribute the direct canvassing to more homeowners, rather than just a couple of us covering the entire neighborhood.

Because you are a new HOA, you need to look closely at the rules for taking over from the Declarant (the Developer?) and for how many votes the Developer has for unsold and for undeveloped lots that he owns. Other people here can say more about how that situation works -- I'm in an old HOA and don't undertstand it well. If your Developer owns half the HOA and has half the votes, then he may be entitled to run the show until he sells more and you have more homeowners. I'm sure he is still required to provide budget and financials and other records on request.

Is your HOA incorporated?

You are a small HOA; have you spoken with a large portion of your fellow homeowners? Do you all feel the same? When you say they are not tuned in, do you mean they want to work with you, but don't know how to get this done? That they are apathetic and don't want to get involved? That they agree with you in principle, but won't put the time and effort into helping?
MichaelK11 (Texas)
Posts: 432
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Posted By DeeD1 on 08/21/2009 9:00 AM
Yes, the President is the Director. He is using the title of President. The subdivision was supposed to transfer over once 75% of the homes were completed. He changed the number to 90% and then he changed it again, established the HOA and elected himself as President to further retain power Since the housing market took a turn for the worse, he had stopped building for almost a year (he has recently started building again). He won't keep the grass cut on the vacant lots he owns or common areas. And has no real involvment with the community except during an election period.

The Bylaws should require a Board of Directors, probably 3, 5, or 7 in number, unless the Developer changed them.

Where and how is the turnover requirement stated? In the Articles of Incorporation? Is the HOA incorporated? Changing that may be illegal and violate the deed restrictions, if there were already homes sold and homeowners bound and entitled by those restrictions. Get all these documents together and talk to an attorney. You need legal advice.

He may be violating the Declarations, if he doesn't take care of his own lots or the Common Areas.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
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Dee if you haven't gone through transition then you are indeed living in a dictatorship with the developer as the dictator. And you will be stuck there until transition or until you move, I know it's unfair, un-American and probably fattening too; but you voluntarily agreed to it when you bought in. You need to go back and re-read or read your documents paying particular attention to the rights of the Declarant.

As to him changing when the transition takes place that may or may not be valid, often VA and FHA loans have language in them prohibiting a change in the documents without their approval. Other lenders may have similar language but pay attention especially to government backed mortgages. Depending on your county you may be able to go on-line to the County Recorders website and read everyone's mortgages, I can here.

You should also be able to tell if he actually changed the turnover % with a document filed with the county or if he just told everyone he changed it. If he is not living up to what he said he would do get as many people as possible to contact your city/county trustees to put pressure on him. They live to serve especially if you go in force with lots of registered voters.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
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DeeD:

You can request that he enforce the deed restrictions, but you really need to stop focusing the crime on him or what he should or shouldn't do.

That is a completely different animal and is best left up to the local law enforcement.

What concerned homeowners can do is start a blockwatch program in conjunction with the local police department.

You don't need the developer/HOA to do that, and it's not necessarily the HOA or director's responsibility to do it.

Unfortunately, until the developer leaves, you are probably right, he probably is a "dictator" and, by virtue of his investment in the infrastructure and growth of the development up to the point it is now, he pretty much has the trump card in that fight. He also pretty much gets to install whomever he wants on his board.

If he has not enacted the transition, and had changed the restrictions for what is needed to require it, you're pretty much stuck with it.

What would be in your and your neighbors' best interests would be to gather up ALL the governing documents, the Articles of Incorporation, the By-laws and the Deed Restrictions (the CC&Rs) and read them thoroughly.

Then read them again,

Then read them a third time with a highlighter.

Come back here and ask questions about any sections you don't understand.

Once you are well-versed in what the governing documents say, then you and your neighbors will be better prepared to know what you can do, what HE can do, and what either of you CAN'T do.

Believe it or not, your and his interests are not that far apart. He needs to maintain property values if he is to recoup his investment in any appreciable sense, especially if he lives there.

If you and your neighbors can do your homework on the governing documents, then you all will be able to sit down with him "speaking the same language."

It might be premature to try to wrest "control" from him at this point before you and your neighbors completely understand what you are getting yourselves into, and, even more importantly, how to do it better than he has done.

Final side note: You guys don't really need him to sign off on community events, do you? Create your community culture with your neighbors without him. Have your block parties, or pot lucks, or festivals. . . if you get enough people to participate, regardless of whether he is involved, that's all that's important, isn't it?
DeeD1 (Tennessee)
Posts: 6
Posted:
We actually didn't sign up for this. The original builder of the subdivision pulled out and sold his remaining undeveloped lots to this guy. It was agreed upon by the previous builder that he would turn over the subdivision after a certain % of homes were completed. Well right before that happened, he sold the undeveloped lots to the current President/Developer - who then says he modified the old bylaws when the properties changed hands and this is what we are currently stuck with. I will post a copy of the Bylaws and seek further clarification.

Thanks to everyone for all of your help.
MichaelK11 (Texas)
Posts: 432
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Several have posted how any changes may not have been legal. If all you had on the old transition threshold was a verbal promise, then that may also not have been reliable. You need to check your County register as suggested and verify the requirements.

I'm obviously not as well-versed as some here on these matters, but you need to find out where you stand and what really happened.

Getting together with your neighbors for fun as a community sounds like a very good thing to do under any circumstances; you can also share information and divide effort on your investigation.

Don't worry too much; any Developer is temporary. $25/yr increase does not sound exorbitant, and he wants to sell his properties and get out even more than you want him out. Not to suggest you should tolerate actual breaches of his obligations and your rights, if that's what it really is; but between crime and block parties, you and your neighbors have a lot of good stuff you can do that will seem worthwhile long after he is gone. If you like, you could think of his attempts to focus on buyers rather than residents as your investment in his quick departure.

But do continue to look into whether he is out of line, and what you could do about it.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
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Posted By DeeD1 on 08/21/2009 11:16 AM
The original builder of the subdivision pulled out and sold his remaining undeveloped lots to this guy.

Well, now, that's a horse of an entirely different color!

The Horse Of A Different Color! Pictures, Images and Photos

First of all, this "developer" may not have "developer" perks.

Has the bond been released for the roads and the drainage?

If not, in whose name is it, his or the original developer?

I ask because our developer sold the undeveloped lots in one section (phase) of our development to a builder, who then started calling himself "developer" and tried to use that to legitimize his not paying assessments for any of the lots he owned.

As far as our county records were concerned, he was not "the" developer with certain "rights" reserved in the governing documents, such as not having to pay for owned lots and not having to abide by the CC&Rs.

Under the opinion of the county attorney, he had none of the rights that the actual developer had.

We placed liens on all of his lots and enforced against any violations.

BUT, you will still need to thoroughly understand your documents and will most likely end up having to get some legal advice along the way.
TracieS (Colorado)
Posts: 460
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Michele, You add the coolest things to your posts!
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
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DeeDee,

Now since you've let us know this Pres is indeed the developer this definitely is a "horse of a different color" as Michele said. Purple looks good to me!

When reading through your gov docs, please pay close attention to the article in the CCRs that covers transition. It may be under "membership voting rights". Class A (members) and Class B (developer) membership should be defined and also a provision stating Class B membership shall convert to Class A upon "transition" (my CCRs say "conversion"). Then it should go on to outline when transition occurs. For example, my CCRs say conversion shall occur when the total number of Class A votes (1 vote per member) exceed the total number of Class B votes (3 votes per unsold lot); on 12/31/1975; or such earlier time as the declarant shall designate in writing. The last sentence gives the declarant the option to decide when transition shall occur. If your CCRs do not give him the option to change when transition shall occur, then he has no authority to change the % -- UNLESS he has amended the CCRs. Since he has the majority vote of the assn (the members) he can do this w/o even asking the members to vote.

Regarding the proxies: if the Pres is sending proxies to the members stating they must be given to him then he will just void any that come in assigned to another member of the assn. As I stated in a previous post, many boards will do this and get away with it although a court of law may rule it to be illegal.

While the developer is in control of the assn it's not uncommon for his friends, family members and/or business associates to be members of the board. This is how he maintains control of the board votes. The CCRs usually assign more than one vote to his Class B membership and this is how he maintains control of the assn. (member) votes. When transition occurs there will not be enough unsold lots for him to have control of the assn votes.

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