AlexL1 (Florida)
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Posts: 305
Posted:
Other than number of 5 MPH signs here and there, what can be done to tell characters to slow down? What kind of wording on the notice... if a notice is the way to go??
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EllenS1 (Florida)
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Posts: 1,148
Posted:
Alex,
5MPH is not realistic. Nobody goes 5MPH.
5MPH is not realistic. Nobody goes 5MPH.
TracieS (Colorado)
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Posts: 460
Posted:
Jeeezz...I can WALK 5mph if I'm really going... If I went faster, would I get in trouble? Kids ride their bikes faster than that.
I think you can do what you need to do to protect residents without requiring such a ridiculously low speed limit.
But, since you asked...check with the county about installing speed bumps or "round-a-bouts" or other traffic calming features. I wouldn't add more signs, since that would probably just clutter the area.
Are your streets owned by the association or the county?
I think you can do what you need to do to protect residents without requiring such a ridiculously low speed limit.
But, since you asked...check with the county about installing speed bumps or "round-a-bouts" or other traffic calming features. I wouldn't add more signs, since that would probably just clutter the area.
Are your streets owned by the association or the county?
RogerB (Colorado)
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Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Alex, in a townhome association we manage the Board asked the same question. Their final solution was to post 5 MPH speed limit signs throughout their private roads. Written notices had not helped. Speed bumps were considered and ruled out for now. The Board is hoping this will cause drivers to slow down to less than 15 MPH (no way to police) and may protect the Association from liability in case there is a serious injury.
AlexL1 (Florida)
Posts: 305
Posts: 305
Posted:
oopps !!! I forgot the number one.. it is supposed to be 15 MPH, not 5...the Association owns the street
RogerB (Colorado)
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Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Alex, the townhome I mentioned used to have 15 MPH signs before changing to 5 MPH. That did not work for them.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
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Posted:
If you wish to impose a speed limit only for liability issues without any policy in place for enforcement .... imo, you have NOT removed your liability but merely provided 'lip service'.
To have rules w/o enforcement is to have no rules at all.
You need to hire professionals to enforce a speed limit or it is worthless. No one could possibly collect a fine under the CC&Rs w/o PROVING a violation occured. Stating 'I thought he/she was speeding' will not hold up in court ... even a trained P.O. needs to 'clock' the speeder with calibrated equipment.
The only other option is 'speed humps' to limit traffic to about 25 mph or 'speed bumps' to limit traffic to 5-10 mph.
(yes, there IS A DIFFERENCE between speed humps and speed bumps. either needs to be PROFESSIONALLY installed with proper signage posted)
Let the discussion begin.
To have rules w/o enforcement is to have no rules at all.
You need to hire professionals to enforce a speed limit or it is worthless. No one could possibly collect a fine under the CC&Rs w/o PROVING a violation occured. Stating 'I thought he/she was speeding' will not hold up in court ... even a trained P.O. needs to 'clock' the speeder with calibrated equipment.
The only other option is 'speed humps' to limit traffic to about 25 mph or 'speed bumps' to limit traffic to 5-10 mph.
(yes, there IS A DIFFERENCE between speed humps and speed bumps. either needs to be PROFESSIONALLY installed with proper signage posted)
Let the discussion begin.
BrianB (California)
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Posts: 2,820
Posted:
I just saw the best sign.
It states
Speed Limit
15mph
Enforced by HOA
Paintball Sniper Team
and the sign has little splotches of paint shot onto it.
It states
Speed Limit
15mph
Enforced by HOA
Paintball Sniper Team
and the sign has little splotches of paint shot onto it.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,569
Posts: 1,569
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By BrianB on 08/20/2009 12:58 PM
I just saw the best sign.
It states
Speed Limit
15mph
Enforced by HOA
Paintball Sniper Team
and the sign has little splotches of paint shot onto it.
I just saw the best sign.
It states
Speed Limit
15mph
Enforced by HOA
Paintball Sniper Team
and the sign has little splotches of paint shot onto it.
SheliaH (Indiana)
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Posts: 6,964
Posted:
I didn't know there was a difference between speed humps and bumps - our president is talking about putting them in our community (there are at least two cars that seem to use the street like it's the Indy 500).
JohnB26 is correct on enforcement - our security officer is also a police officer, so he can ticket people when they get too rowdy
JohnB26 is correct on enforcement - our security officer is also a police officer, so he can ticket people when they get too rowdy
If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
GlenL (Ohio)
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Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By SheliaH on 08/21/2009 5:48 AM
I didn't know there was a difference between speed humps and bumps - our president is talking about putting them in our community (there are at least two cars that seem to use the street like it's the Indy 500).
JohnB26 is correct on enforcement - our security officer is also a police officer, so he can ticket people when they get too rowdy
I didn't know there was a difference between speed humps and bumps - our president is talking about putting them in our community (there are at least two cars that seem to use the street like it's the Indy 500).
JohnB26 is correct on enforcement - our security officer is also a police officer, so he can ticket people when they get too rowdy
Shelia the difference between a speed bump and a speed hump is height and width. A bump is usually 4" to 6" high and 10" to 12" wide where a hump is 2" to 3" high and several feet wide. The drawbacks vs. the benefits are about a wash; while it will slow people down to go over them they often race away from them and if at all possible drive around them even in the grass. They can cause damage on cars with low body clearance and cause slow responses from emergency vehicles. Another option is installing rumble strips; these are the cuts in the pavement along the edge of highways to let you know if you are drifting off to the side. They can also be a series of small humps 1" high and 3" wide set in a series, these can be permanent or there are products that can be moved from place to place.
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GlenL (Ohio)
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Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Bump, hump or rumble strip you need to keep in mind that these devices will also interfere with people walking and on bicycle, motorcycle, etc. and could become a liability hazard. You could also contact your Associations insurance carrier for ideas. Insurance companies study stuff like this ad nauseum.
Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
TracieS (Colorado)
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Posts: 460
Posted:
I agree with checking with outside authorities. Insurance company is a great idea, but your local police/sheriff's office and local/county transportation office have lots of info, too. Explore as many options as you can.
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