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GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Mary, you have always been argumentative and nitpicking which for the most part I have found amusing; in fact some of your battles with HaroldS are legen (wait for it) dary. But you have gone out of your way lately it seems to try and pick fights especially with JohnB26 who is not an innocent bystander in the matter either.

You both are guilty of hijacking multiple threads to continue your blood feud and it is getting old fast! Take a moment to re-read the mission statement at the top of the page - "A positive place for community association leaders to share ideas and learn."

Your posts lately have been anything but positive which is a shame because you both have valuable knowledge to share. While a good percentage of the 16,000 members here will never post which is normal; how many have been scared off by the attitudes here. And I don't hold myself exempt, I have on occasion gone after posters who I felt were being disingenuous but I try not to make a habit of it. I myself don't care for a particular regular poster; I consider their posts to be feckless ramblings of which this board could easily do without. But I don't call them out over every inane post for it would serve no purpose, instead I just don't read their posts. I try to be the bigger person.

Maybe HOATalk should only allow each individual one or at the most two posts per thread or you could use this thread to argue with each other and others over meaningless minutia. Or even better idea; you could both get disposable email accounts and take your battle completely off of here.

(For those new to HOATalk; HaroldS was an early poster here from Arizona.)

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,569
Posted:
acknowledged ... point well taken
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Glen,

THANK YOU!!!! so much for getting on top of this. Many of us have just plain backed off responding to some of the posts. This kind of behavior surely scares off any new people who want help.

I have a few addresses from some regular posters and they also have expressed a dislike for the negativity going on by a couple of others.

Thanks again, Donna
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Amen! I've been a regular poster here for two years.....but not lately. I'm mostly now a "lurker" because of some of the attitudes of people replying to others posts and comments. Though I've never received a nasty reply from Mary, there are others who have been downright rude....to the point where I'm sometimes almost afraid to see how people have responded. If I want to be treated like that I'll just stay home and get that type of flack from my neighbors who hate us board members anyway!

"Please"'s, "thank you"'s, "respectfully"'s and such comments go a long way. Some people have lost sight that we're supposed to be here to HELP each other.

Just my humble opinion.

Anna

MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Thanks for the wake-up call Glen. Guess I'll have to work on being less argumentative and nitpicking.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Mary, take it from one who knows. It's easy to fall into the trap of another person's agenda.

I do it all the time.

I think what John needs to hear from us is, "Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree."

MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Michele,

I do believe I said that, but it was lost on him!
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:


Mary said,

"I do believe I said that, but it was lost on him!"

It seems that you did not get the message. Gotta have one last jab? Please make yourself a cup of Earl Grey and get back to being the professional that you are.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Well folks, I am going to catch hell for this but here goes.

If we are so concerned about the negativity appearing on this site, explain to me any positive words that have come out of this post.

All of you that posted are much better than how you are going to be looked upon by strangers, and others reading this thread.

Let me tell you something. We all think we can post up a storm here and it costs us nothing..........nothing invested. Well that's wrong, read this post by folks that are all on the same page trying to accomplish the same job. Crap aside we all have great respect for each other. We just get caught up in the issue and let it drive us down a bumpy road. I believe that and we might as well delete this thread as it means really nothing.
MikeS1
Posts: 521
Posted:
Glen - I couldn't agree with you more - Your suggestion about limiting postings has been presented to HOATALK before. It's a free site and a matter or cost in terms of programming changes. I really don't look at the site as much any more, for the reasons that you mentioned. Thanks!
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
This thread is not getting better it is getting worse.

Maybe we should have elections to decide who meets some esoteric definition of what is inane and what qualifications it takes to post here. None of us can qualify if the requirement is to always be right and to always be helpful and to always be smarter than the one who's post you are replying to.

Mary seems to be catching an undeserved bunch of flack. What ever your opinions are, if they are not qualified with some real knowledge of who Mary is and what she stands for, this kind of ganging up is uncalled for and rude.

If you can figure out a better way to run a site like this and insure everyone is going to agree with you all the time, then go set one up if this one is not to your desires.

If you don't want to do that then write an open post to Hoatalk with your ideas and suggestions and if it serves whatever it is you are trying to feed make a list of those you consider detrimental to the site.

If you have been around long enough you know things don't run like clockwork and not everyone is going to calm you down, some are going to wind your clock. What do you think you can do about it? You have two real choices, put up with the flaws or leave the site.

You all are talking like someone is taking something away from you. I don't own this site and neither do any of you. So back off and and let things quiet down and if history is any indicator , next year at this time probably half of us will be gone anyway. That should take care of some of the complaints and no vitriolic posts will be necessary or productive for that matter.

We all know we can back out of here in a heartbreak, don't push people to the door.
DwightT (Idaho)
Posts: 664
Posted:
Robert - if this thread bothers you so much, then maybe you should follow Glen's suggestion and just not read it any more. Many of us do get tired of the sniping and attack posts that some people seem to get in to, and when they continue to make such posts day after day, it needs to be called out.

Sometimes even the best of us will get into a mindset where we feel that we just have to respond to every perceived slight. When two people get into that mindset together, the result is that the situation just escalates until somebody says "enough!". In this case, it appears that it was Glen who was that somebody (even though I have a feeling that many others where close to that point themselves).
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Dwight,
I won't post on this thread again.
I doubt that will contribute to solving the problems.

Many of you also have a short memory and are forgetting all the good Mary has done on this site and has earned her keep.

But, I'm out of here. Maybe Glen will post an enough post here on this thread.

GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Robert I'm sorry if you feel I was unfairly targeting Mary, that wasn't my intention at all. I respect Mary and agree with the majority of her posts, I even on occasion sided with her against Harold. But she and John have hijacked a multitude of posts, causing one of them to be pulled and when the poster asked where his post had gone they hijacked that one in an effort again to prove that each was smarter than the other.

Again I direct you to the mission statement at the top of the page and the posting rules; go back over the past few days and see how many posts fit the criteria, especially threads started by DebbieK1. I don't want to see this forum turn into the typical internet attack site and if we don't police it ourselves then HOATalk will or if it becomes too much of a problem remove it all together. I know you yourself called John out for his behavior:

John,
What's the problem? In your eyes what are we doing that has resulted in your reactions? Got any suggestion how we can operate better? I would be glad to hear them. But if there is nothing we can post that does not arouse sarcasm, why bother to post here? You have ticked off some mighty fine people with wonderful track records. It would be hard for any of us to match their input to this site and the people posting. I can tell you truly this bunch bends in circles to keep the peace, how about climbing aboard.

But as my momma used to say "It takes two to tango." and IMO Mary was equally responsible. I simply requested that they act like the grown ups I assume them to be.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions

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