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DebbyK1 (Georgia)
Posts: 21
Posted:
Problems abounding all at one time it appears ~sigh~

We had a foreclosure house close. I was in constant contact with the Realtor regarding wants, such as notices involving past due dues/balances. I was getting requests almost daily to revise the letters to the bank. I was responding within 30m of the requests. The realtor said the house was closing on 7/15.

Now, since then I have found out through our Senior Block Captain that a builder has bought the property & is going to fix the house up & resell, in fact a new for sale sign has gone up. The builder now resides there.

We have not received any initiation fees nor the back dues or pro-rated dues nor closing papers from the bank that was specified to be paid at the time of closing. I've emailed the contact I was using in the above for letters etc but have rec'd no response.

What is my next step?

Thanks,

Debby
JudyM5 (Ohio)
Posts: 36
Posted:
Debby - Are you the BOD president or the PM? First, check your state's laws concerning foreclosed properties. In alot of states, when a property goes through foreclosure and is "sold" at a Sheriff's Sale, all debts (past dues)on the property, except for all taxes and first mortgages, become null and void as of the date of the Sheriff's Sale. That means if the HOA has a lien on the house that the HOA (usually, check your state laws) takes a back seat to other people wanting money gotten for the house at the Sheriff's Sale. After all the taxes and the first mortgagee gets their money, there is normally none left for anyone else with a lien on the property. If the status letters that you were revising were being sent to a licensed title company, the title company is obligated to include any amount that is due and payable to the HOA on the HUD closing statement. This would be any unpaid fees, late fees, and/or legal fees incurred after the Sheriff's Sale. Call the title company and tell them that you want to have a copy of the HUD statement from that closing faxed to you. If you don't know how to read the HUD statement after you get it, have an experienced Realtor look at it and see if fees owed to the HOA were paid by the Seller at the closing or if they were included on the Buyer's side of the HUD statement (very unusual, except for a prorated portion of the month of the closing or the fees for the month following the closing.) If the new owner closed on the house without the outstanding fees (since Sheriff's Sale) being paid by the Seller, they could very well be on the hook to pay those fees. Again, check your state's laws and your CC&R's. In alot of states, unpaid association fees "follow" the property and not the owner.
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
I would say that you should probably contact an attorney and see if there is anything to do. Not all houses "in foreclosure" are actually foreclosed. And you may (or may not) have some claim remaining. But the devil is in the details.
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
I would say that you should probably contact an attorney and see if there is anything to do. Not all houses "in foreclosure" are actually foreclosed. And you may (or may not) have some claim remaining. But the devil is in the details.
DebbyK1 (Georgia)
Posts: 21
Posted:
I'm the treasurer.

I wasn't expecting past due fines/dues, although at one point if I had a itemized listing of past due fines/dues the bank would have been willing to pay (or least they said they would). We did not have an itemization, since our past management company refused to turn over past documents once they were fired. The letter I sent to the bank requested $120.00 initiation fee & pro-rated dues from 7/15 forward. I had to redo the letter per the woman's request because she said the bank would be paying current dues from 1/1-7/14. We've had other foreclosure/bankruptcy homes sell & have always rec'd the initiation fees & pro-rated dues.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Debbie,

Since you are only asking for the initiation fee plus the pro-rated dues from the date the new owner took possession of the home I would now send a past-due notice to the new homeowner. If he paid these fees at closing it's up to him to contact the title company and ask why they haven't been transmitted to the HOA. If he did not pay them at closing, then he must pay them now. If he refuses, then take action against him as you would against any other member of the HOA who is delinquent. You may want to also make certain he has received copies of all the gov documents so he is aware of the rules and regs he must abide by. If he hasn't then you may want to give hime some leeway such as a waiver on a late fee for these amounts, but just a one-time waiver.
DebbyK1 (Georgia)
Posts: 21
Posted:
Good idea Mary...Will do that Thanks.

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