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EllenS1 (Florida)
Posts: 1,148
Posted:
I would like to hear from Florida residents. Can an hoa file a claim of lien without using an attorney? "The Law of Florida Homeowners Associations" show a form that can be used. It seems ridiculous to pay $125 or $150 to have an attorney do this when the president of the association can do this. If you know, please cite the Florida Statute or whatever so I can take this to the board. As most communities we have lots of delinquent accounts so we need to save every cent we can.

I've done real estate closings where contractors can fill in the blank sort of liens and record them so why not hoas?
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Hi Ellen. Personally I would rather have our attorney file for us. Letters from the Board/Management company fail to make people pay their delinquent fees. Usually (and I stress usually) the 30-day notice of intent to file lien letter from our attorney gets their attention pretty fast. Resulting in payment. If/when our attorney files a lien, HIS fees are also attached to the payment. When the delinquent owner pays off the lien they have to pay the attorneys fee and the court costs.
EllenS1 (Florida)
Posts: 1,148
Posted:
Anna,
We haven't had much success with an atorney doing the work. Some will pay after receiving an intent to lien but the most don't so we are simply out of pocket. Currently we are charged $125 for an intent to lien, $350 for a claim of lien and notice of intent to foreclose which we can recoup IF the owner pays. If not we are then going to get into huge fees. (1) attorney checks to see if there is enough equity in the property to foreclose, (2) title work on the property and on and on. Then if successful the association would own the property and be responsible for property taxes, repairs, etc. so it seems like a no win situation. At least if the association files a claim of lien it will be paid off when the property changes hands and would cost us nothing more than the filing fee.

We have had a $20,000+ Final Judgment against an owner for over a year (but not for assessments) and the law firm that handled this said we could not foreclose since it is homestead and not for assessments. (Great attorneys..you would think they would have told us this before we spent over $6,000 in legal fees). They advised us to garnish her wages, etc. She is retired so we are scrounging around to see if we can freeze her bank account. So now they are charging us another $1,000 to do this.
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Wow.
PeterB1 (Florida)
Posts: 257
Posted:
Ellen,

I suggest the following:

1. Write your own 'intent to lien' letter. Explain that their non-payment is impacting their neighbors. Do it in a 'friendly way and explain the next step, should they fail to pay. Have your Pres. or Treas. sign it. Saving $125.

2. We pay under $200 for the attorney work to actually file the lien. After filing, send a copy of the lien to the homeowner - the attorney probably doesn't do that and many times the owner is unaware...

3. As a last step, we filed (and were awarded) a Summary Judgment for non-payment of fees and property damage. While the process dragged on for months, it is done. The attorney fees ran about $3000. Obviously, the homeowner is paying that.

4. Find a new attorney. Yours is not doing you any favors.
EllenS1 (Florida)
Posts: 1,148
Posted:
Peter,

Thanks for the advice. The attorneys we used were highly recommended and we were told they even helped write condo laws for the state but with the exception of their biggest goof we are changing all other matters to a new law firm.

The board is asking for our other files from this firm, mostly liens where some title work was done. Our PM said they may not want to turn the records over but my thinking is we paid for the work done and are entitled to them. I'm not anticipating they will not turn them over but if not I thought notifying The Florida Bar may net some results. You're thinking?

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