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JW4 (Washington)
Posts: 31
Posted:
I am not a board member but I am a realtor and I know the rules and codes quite well. The current, ineffective, board continues to ignore a request by me to ask a vindictive neighbor to stop slamming her door at 6:00 - 7:00am. We are a small townhouse community of 9 and sounds carry in the am. It is one thing for a garage door to open but with respect to something one can contril that is another. One could argue, that she is not doing it on purpose but based on a recent email expressing anger towards this unit becuase our guests and other unit owners guests say goodbye to loud at night, as well as, a history of "playing games" to quote her at the annual meeting she continues this nonsense. I could care less about getting along, I just want the quiet enjoyment of my home. She once blocked my car in and she came home just in time not to have her car towed--get the picture.

Two short, factual requests where sent to the board and nothing has been done. The President does not care and based on her history feels it is the homeowners problem, even though it ignores our quiet rules. I wonder what would happen if someone banged on her walls at 6:00am?

So, we are going to ask the board of three one more time. Any suggestions on what to say, because my anger is getting the best of me at this point.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Besides blocking your car, she seems pretty normal to me. I dont see what a board member can do? Give her a free instruction in quieter door shutting? If I was the board, I would ignore your complaint too.

You seem to be looking for a level of quietness that you will never receive in an environment such as a townhouse or condo/apartment. There will ALWAYS be someone making noises. Everyone is too close. My suggestion? Move to a single family property with no one around.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
How old are your units? Is the noise insulation the best it can be? Maybe even door closures can be installed. Start doing some investigation on how new complexes are built to deal with the noise from walls and doors. THEN bring your concerns and suggestions to the board.

JW4 (Washington)
Posts: 31
Posted:
Thanks for the comments.

Steve~what is normal about a neighbor that exhibits vindictive behavior for years. She only slams her door shut at 6:00 am? Sure I will put my unit up for sale tomorrow and hunt for a single family home!
No need to reply I was just looking for some helpful hints.
Just an FYI, there is a reason that the Board distributes rules and regulations.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Well as you said, "One could argue, that she is not doing it on purpose" For something like a door shutting, it would be hard to prove she is shutting it with extra force to purposely make a loud noise to bother you. She would have to straight out tell you she is doing it. She may be a vindictive person, but there is nothing you can do about that either.

Quiet enjoyment of your home is defined by what a reasonable person would find quiet. Things that would not be reasonable would be playing loud music late at night, domestic abuse, yelling, etc. Your idea that "quiet" should mean absolute quiet is not reasonable given the environment.
FrancescaM (Washington)
Posts: 264
Posted:
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Posted By SteveM9 on 06/19/2009 6:26 PM
Well as you said, "One could argue, that she is not doing it on purpose" For something like a door shutting, it would be hard to prove she is shutting it with extra force to purposely make a loud noise to bother you. She would have to straight out tell you she is doing it. She may be a vindictive person, but there is nothing you can do about that either.

Quiet enjoyment of your home is defined by what a reasonable person would find quiet. Things that would not be reasonable would be playing loud music late at night, domestic abuse, yelling, etc. Your idea that "quiet" should mean absolute quiet is not reasonable given the environment.

I had an issue with door slamming. My board did nothing about it, the unit was a renter. She yelled a verbal slew of cuss words at my spouse when we had a houseful of guest. i am on the board. I called the homeonwer and told him word by word what his classy tenant just yelled in our common area.. It embarssed him enough to speak to renter. This isn't you issue at all but you get the idea. I thought out of the box.. it worked..

For your issue? I would bring it up in open session so it may be part of your mnutes. Bring itup month after month.. it provided you with a legal paper trail if your board does not seek action on it... and it provides you with the proof of you notifying them. If there is no action, follow your governing documents, civil codes etc... there are laws that support peaceful iving and if your baord is not acting on your complaints, make ti a legal issue.
FrancescaM (Washington)
Posts: 264
Posted:
any noise that consistently interrupts your peaceful living is an issue. Some people thing that it's ok for others to be a nusaince.. is NOT ok.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Noise issues can be a sticky wicket. I would think there should be requirements that more than one member hears and is bothered by the noise; otherwise, it could just be one vindictive neighbor trying to make trouble for another person. If you can hear the door slamming at 6 am, surely your other neighbors can hear it too! Before complaining to the BOD, why not have a friendly chat with your neighbor and ask her to please be careful about slamming the door, especially early in the AM?

BTW, moving into a single family residence community doesn't mean their won't be any noise! The homes in my community are rather close together. One neighbor's home is only about 5' away. The entry side of their home is on the living room side of my home so I can hear all the coming and going from their front door if I'm in my living room.
JW4 (Washington)
Posts: 31
Posted:
Thanks for the posts, I am big on paper trails! My husband and I have decided sometime this week, in writing, to ask the BOD, one more time, and suggest one BOD member attend a friendly knock on the door, at witness to a personal request. She is a very unpleasant person so, a witness is best. Unfortunately, the other neighbor that is could effect is older and does not hear well. Thanks everyone!

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