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LauraL3 (Arizona)
Posts: 21
Posted:
Our complex has had a problem with stray/feral cats for some time now. We have owners that insist on feeding them. Board has ask often for them to stop. We find the food and throw it out. Ask again don't feed the cats. Now we have a owner that has trapped and had two cats spayed. She is asking the board for reembursment of $70 for having the cats fixed. She feels the board has not done enough to stop the problem. How do we handle this very purrrrsistant owner?
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
We have received your request for reimbursement of $70 to give a wild animal medical attention.

The request has been denied. No action taken.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
I echo that reply.

It was a clever attempt on her part, however.

MarianneG (Indiana)
Posts: 170
Posted:
I also echo Steve's reply. However, as one who likes cats, I'm wondering whether there is an agency in Arizona that would round up these stray cats, adopt out those that are adoptable, and euthanase those that are too wild. It would be good to see humane and decent treatment of the cats. BTW, I love your purrrrsistent.
RobertG12 (Arizona)
Posts: 160
Posted:
I know there is an agency, but don't know what it is called, that rounds up feral cats, neuters them and takes them back to the place the came from. The reason they take them back is that if they don't then other cats will take the territory and the problem is never resolved.
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
I would deny the owners request also.

In addition I would suggest you work to have these animals removed from the property quickly.

Now as to those feeding these animals we have a rule in place against leaving food outside for any animal. Sometimes it attracts animals you were not looking to feed.

Remove and disgard the food and fine those people who are drawing the cats to your property.

We had the same issue years ago. And as in your case we had an animal lover who thought these were kiddy cats. So he used a have a heart trap to catch one. Then in his stupidity he decided to remove the cat from the trap.

It attacked him and took off. The resident filed a lawsuit against the property for his injuries and now get this LOSS OF SERVICES WITH REGARDS TO HIS WIFE!

THE PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS FROM HAPPENING!

The matter was truned over to our insurance carrier and THEY PAID HIM $24,000 WHILE WE NOW HAVE A CLAIM AGAINST OUR INSURANCE HISTORY!

Sounds like you might be heading down this same road.

The cats should go.
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JonD1 on 06/12/2009 7:27 AM
I would deny the owners request also.

In addition I would suggest you work to have these animals removed from the property quickly.

Now as to those feeding these animals we have a rule in place against leaving food outside for any animal. Sometimes it attracts animals you were not looking to feed.

Remove and disgard the food and fine those people who are drawing the cats to your property.

We had the same issue years ago. And as in your case we had an animal lover who thought these were kiddy cats. So he used a have a heart trap to catch one. Then in his stupidity he decided to remove the cat from the trap.

It attacked him and took off. The resident filed a lawsuit against the property for his injuries and now get this LOSS OF SERVICES WITH REGARDS TO HIS WIFE!

THE PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS FROM HAPPENING!

The matter was truned over to our insurance carrier and THEY PAID HIM $24,000 WHILE WE NOW HAVE A CLAIM AGAINST OUR INSURANCE HISTORY!

Sounds like you might be heading down this same road.

The cats should go.

Your insurance adjusters are morons.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JonD1 on 06/12/2009 7:27 AM

It attacked him and took off. The resident filed a lawsuit against the property for his injuries and now get this LOSS OF SERVICES WITH REGARDS TO HIS WIFE!

I wanna know what he was really doing with the cat. . . .
MarianneG (Indiana)
Posts: 170
Posted:
Oh, Michele, This brought on a belly laugh. Thanks for making my day!
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Hire a company to trap and remove the cats. I've hired companies like them to catch various critters. Its not expensive.
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
Brian:

I agree but once you submit a claim the insurance company then they decide how to handle its settlement.

$24,000 you've got to be kidding....................

Michelle, lets keep this exchange professional!

Just wonder how your life is going when you have time to trap wild cats.
From what I was told this cat chewed him up GOOD!

It ran up one side of his face claws out!

Plus with wild animals you need to think about rabies.

We hired a critter control company problem solved.

LauraL3 (Arizona)
Posts: 21
Posted:
Thanks everyone for your ideas. The complex started with three cats that we had neutered and released by one of the homeowners.Everything was working out ok, they kept the mouse population down. In the last year they have all disappeared and new ones have moved in. Differant home owners are feeding the new cats.To make matters worse we have found roof rats. We have citrus and cat food for them to feed on.The locl SPCA will not accept any more cats/kittens. So a couple of cats are ok (only if they are raters) Doesn't seem any easy answer.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Yup, your not just feeding the cats, your feeding the rats.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Laura,

Here's an article I found on the internet that you may find helpful regarding the roof rats.

Intro to Roof Rats

The roof rat's scientific name is Rattus rattus. Historically, they are associated with having spread the plague or black death during the Middle Ages. The roof rat is also known as the black rat, even though it is not necessarily black in color, but rather is usually dark brown. Your typical roof rat is between 13 to 18 inches long, including its tail. In fact, it is distinguished from other rats by that tail, which is longer than the rest of its body. Roof rats are sleek, slender, and agile. Their have large ears.

Are there roof rats in the Phoenix area?

Yes, there are. The rat outbreak first occurred in the Phoenix area in 2001 when they appeared in the Arcadia neighborhood in east Phoenix. As of this writing (March 2004) there have been confirmed roof rat sightings in Phoenix, Tempe, Glendale, Paradise Valley, and Glendale. We can assume that every neighborhood has roof rats now, or will have them very soon.

Roof rats are not unique to our state; they are partial to warmer climates. The roof rat has been found along the southern Atlantic and Gulf coastal states from Virginia to Texas and throughout Florida. They also are found along the Pacific coast of California, Washington state, and Oregon. I have seen documentation indicating that roof rats will always be found within 100 miles of the coastline, but I guess we've proven that to be incorrect!

So how did they get to Arizona? In cars, in trucks, by movement of plants and trash--we don't really know. But they are here, and it will take dedication to keep them under control.

What else you should know about roof rats

Roof rat droppings are long and cylindrical.
Roof rats are nocturnal.
Roof rats can transmit diseases like the bubonic plague and typhus. At this point, none of the roof rats captured and tested in Maricopa County have been diseased.
Roof rats will enter homes and buildings. They only need a hole the size of a quarter to gain entry.
Roof rats are good climbers. They can climb walls and use utility lines and fences to travel from structure to structure.
Outside, roof rats will nest in trees, woodpiles, garbage, and plants. In our area, oleanders seem to be a popular nesting location.
Inside, high places, like attics, are their preference.
Roof rats do not burrow in the ground or swim.
Roof rats eat fruits, vegetables, nuts, pet food and invertebrates (spiders and worms, for example). They will also eat paper.
Female roof rats can each have up to four litters a year, each containing five to eight young. In urban areas where they have no natural predators, the survival rate of the babies is high.
If you have the following items around your home, you may be more prone to attracting roof rats: palm trees, yucca plants, pampas grass, honeysuckle, Italian cypress trees, any heavy shrubbery, wood piles, and storage boxes.
How to tell if you have roof rats

If you have citrus trees, and you notice hollowed-out fruit on the ground or in the trees, this is an indicator that roof rats are present. If you hear gnawing or scratching sounds in the attic or in the walls, you may have roof rats. Pay attention to any droppings in attics and storage areas. If you notice oily rubmarks on the house, or small holes in the screens, you could have roof rats.

What you can do to prevent roof rats from moving in

Repair any broken or torn screens.
Keep your trees trimmed, and your bushes and vines thinned. Make sure trees are trimmed back from the house at least 4 feet.
Keep lids on garbage cans.
Clean up debris in the yard and storage areas.
Seal around your attic.
Don't leave pet food outside, especially at night.
Pick your citrus as soon as it is ripe. Remove any fallen citrus from the ground.
Store wood at least 18 inches above the ground and 12 inches away from the walls.
Eliminate standing water and fix leaky faucets.
What you can do to get rid of roof rats

Trapping roof rats seems to be the preferred method of control, especially if you have small children or pets that might be affected by poisons. Snap traps are widely available, and you can see photos and directions for their use at the Arcadia Neighbor to Neighbor web site. Several city offices are offering traps at very reasonable prices for their residents, as part of their education and prevention program. Check the web site of the city/town in which you live for more information about traps and their availability.
BonnieE (Illinois)
Posts: 338
Posted:
Hi Laura!

I adopted a feral kitten (now 2 yrs. old!) who was raised by a local volunteer organization – they run have a catch/neuter or spay/release program and a shelter. They are partnered with a local shelter and vets, and keep the kittens of pregnant mommas and socialize them for adoption. My suggestion is to check with local pet shelters, vets, and the internet for a feral cat catch/release program with regard to “your” feral cats.

Here is an organization, as a starting point, for information:

http://www.alleycat.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=191

Check their “get informed” link to learn more about feral cats.

Bonnie
KevinK7 (Florida)
Posts: 1,343
Posted:
I find the Spay and Release programs to be very helpful as well... my school had an issue with feral cats becoming more prominent, especially since there was a cafeteria with students ready to feed the kittys.

The Spay and Release program helped maintain the cat population and keep it from ballooning with numerous pregnant cats running around.

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