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ToddJ1 (Virginia)
Posts: 4
Posted:
We are a new HOA that had no "official" architechtural/design standards/covenants for the first 2 years of existence. Over this period, homeowners have been adding decks and other improvements, some of which now violate the recently approved (Feb. 2006) design standards by our BOD. Our BOD determined that these standards would apply to all improvements going forward and those that were completed prior to the approval of the new standards. This seems unfair. Has anyone faced this issue and are we opening ourselves up for litigation?

How have others handled the transition from builder managed HOA to homeowner managed HOA?
GeraldT1 (<Not Specified>)
Posts: 519
Posted:
ToddJ1,

My COA cc&r's (covenants, conditions, and restrictions) do not permit any modfications on the exterior of the units, and go further to prohibit a laundry list of items.

However, we eventually developed a set of standards that did not violate the covenants, but did permit some modifications that would ensure visual harmony, yet personal freedoms with accountability of maintenance upon the owner, rather than the association. For example, hanging of flags, annual flower planting within limits, yard art within limits, etc.

In theory, no modification is grandfathered.

Look to the cc&r's in your gov. docs. They probably prohibit any modification on the exterior as long as the builder is on the board.

There is a very good reason that modifications should not occur until the property is accepted by the owners from the builder. Deficiencies of the property may be evidenced during the Transition Study and Capital Reserve Analysis. Unit owners modifying the exterior prior to the handover, presents the builder with an advantage. The builder can claim that it wasn't his fault for the deficiency, it was the owner that modified the exterior. Owners in new construction must be extremely patient to let all the kinks get ironed.

Perhaps the modifications in your HOA can serve as examples of good construction and set the standard? Get on the Architectural Review Committee, this is your best shot at setting good standards.

Best of success!!
GeraldT1
NNJ
ToddJ1 (Virginia)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Thanks for the input. As it happends, I am chairman of the ARC

This is a tough issue and we are trying to be reasonable about the situation because, due to several reasons, homeowners did not submit requests for improvements prior to the approval of our design standards, and now their properties are in volation. For example, the new standards do not allow for white railing on decks, but we have several of these in the community, and they look great. However, when the design standards were developed the ARC decided against white rails. Now we have this dilemma, paint over the white railings or rip them down and rebuild. I know the homeowners could have avoided this situation by simply submitting a request prior, but there were no specific standards at the time to judge these requests against other than the existing covenant that states all external modification must be approved by the HOA, so they probably would have been approved anyway. What a mess.
GeraldT1 (<Not Specified>)
Posts: 519
Posted:
ToddJ1,

Not everything happens in an ideal manner. Standards are set for aesthetics reasons as well as to promote and preserve the safety and integrity of the elements the HOA is to maintain.

All is not lost because your covenants state all external modifications must be approved, from what you relate, they don't say when. So get the owners to submit an application for modification and approve them. The modifications aren't setting a bad precedent. There is a certain amount of subjective input when developing standards but the process of developing them needs to be all inclusive.

Best of success!!
GeraldT1
NNJ
NNJ

JanM (Texas)
Posts: 142
Posted:
You may be opening up for litigation, and your right, it is not fair. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game. Most places that I have read about have always "grandfathered" in previous improvements which were NOT in violation at the time of their construction. If white rails are no longer accepted, who is going to pay to change it? You? The HOA? The BOD?
CharlesW1 (Georgia)
Posts: 826
Posted:
ToddJ1,
I am also in Georgia. I want to be on the board as well. I have been educating myself as to the same situation you have been confronted with now. I was thinking I will enforce what the CC&Rs state as to what is a violation and what isn’t. If the violation was there prior to me being elected to the board, then they got lucky. I don’t know what else to do. I want to be fair to all, even the current violators.

I don’t know if this would be procedure or as ethical but it’s what I feel is right!

Just like a previous response to your post had asked who will pay to change it, making it no longer a violation? The board? The HOA? You? I’m thinking it’s just best to say “well that was there prior to me being on the BOD” In all reality that is the truth.

I don’t want to be the bearer of bad news. I do want my community to know, that if and when I am elected to the board. I will enforce all the CC&Rs! It’s only fair.

Chuck W.

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ToddJ1 (Virginia)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Thanks for your responses. I am in Alexandria, Va. Ultimately, it would be the homeowner's responsiblity to pay for any modifications. It just does not sit right with me to go to those extremes. We all have to live together, and there must be a middle ground on this. It just seems senseless to me that we are going to ask someone to modify/tear down a deck just because the ARC decided a year and a half after it was constructed that white railings were not acceptable.
JosephW (Michigan)
Posts: 882
Posted:
Since new associations are generally stuck with the developer's CC&R's and rules (and with any exceptions the developer may have granted), I usually recommend to new boards that after they get comfortable in office, they survey the members as to how they actually feel about the rules. You may find out that a majority would like white fences, or not, but at least you will have a sense of how the community wishes to be governed, and you'll know that you have the resident's behind your decisions. You can then amend the documents to more accurately reflect the expectations of the owners and govern accordingly.

Joe

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RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Todd, any guidelines developed by the ARC should not go into effect until after the homeowners are provided a copy of the guidelines. Don't ask anyone with existing white railings to modify or tear down. It is not their responsibility.
MissyW (Georgia)
Posts: 22
Posted:
Todd,
Make sure you carefully read the ccr's. We just found in ours that it states that: "if any structure shall be erected, placed, maintained or altered upom any lot and no action is taken by the ACC or BOD for a time period commencing at the end of construction amd ending 6 mos therafter, said alterations shall be deemed to be approved by the ACC teh BOD and the association shall be estopped from enforcing any restrictions."
It is under the violations section of our CCR and it is a Killer!
Hope yours doesn't have that one slipped in there. Good luck.
Missy
GeraldT1 (<Not Specified>)
Posts: 519
Posted:
ToddJ,

I could not agree more with JosephW's post on how you should proceed.

Legislating taste is a tricky matter. What is more important is legislating what can and cannot be done to common elements, since those are what the HOA/COA must maintain.

Elements on property in an HOA community that is owned outright by the resident(s) should only have a degree of legislation so as not to infringe on owner rights and liberties. That sliding scale is developed by each association and is unique to the state and the tastes of the residents within that community. What is right for residents in my community, may not be right for those in yours.

Here's some skinny on how our ARC standards were developed. None of our ARC standards went against the cc&r's but they were developed after owners did modifications. Some owners, not educted in coa living mistakenly modified as if they owned the place and did so before the owners controlled the board. Some of the modifications (annual/perennial flowers, wreaths on doors) were fine, they became standards but some limitations on placement were developed. Other modifications, were not fine, and were in contrast to state/federal/local rulings and our cc&r's. For example, satellite dishes on townhouse roofs. We developed 2 exclusive use areas for satellite installation since our cc&r's said they could not be placed on the roofs and only on the deck railings. The developer changed the railings from wood to painted metal so installing the dishes on the metal was next to impossible.

In my opinion, an HOA should develop a color and material choice for railings, white being one, and other colors complimentary with the houses.

Standards to modify should provide the owners a pallete of material, color, and location choices. The reason is that it maintains harmony both visually, and politically.

Best of success!!
GeraldT1
NNJ
ToddJ1 (Virginia)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Thanks for the feedback. I really like the idea of a homeowner survey of the February 2006 Design Standards. Now that everyone has had 6 months to review them, it would be beneficial to solicit homeowner input on any suggested revisions.

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