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RobertG12 (Arizona)
Posts: 160
Posted:
I read many of the discussions about the possible need to get 100% of the owners to approve removing an amenity. I suppose the percent required is unimportant to this question as 100% is just as hard to get as 50% for the HOA.

The real question is what defines an amenity? We have a small water feature that is in a common area visible to neighborhood streets that has some flowing water and has the footprint of a garage (just a rough estimate). It is barely seen if you drive by because it is only at ground level but it is at the entrance monument to the area. There has been some discussion of taking the water out and filling in empty space with dirt and putting in plants. The actual structure would not change in shape, just in purpose. I realize you would really have to see it to visualize it. This structure in an 800 home community so it is small in comparison.

Do you think just changing it from a water feature to a plant feature constitutes a change in an amenity?
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Robert,

Def: "Amenity -- a feature of the home or property that serves as a benefit to the buyer but that is not necessary to its use; may be natural (like location, Woods, water) or man-made (like a swimming pool or garden).

another definition...

amenity -- any feature that makes a property more attractive or valuable. Amenities include such items as off-street parking, a swimming pool, tennis courts, and proximity to good schools, transportation and shopping facilities.

What do your documents call it? Probably "the entrance" I would consider this part of the landscape which would not take 100% if that is what is required to remove an amenity. Why do you want to remove it other than the cost of electricity.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
I don't, because I don't consider such a fountain an "amenity."

I consider amenities things that the membership can use in some way that increases their enjoyment of their living spaces, like a pond, a dock, a poolhouse, a club house, tennis courts.

Landscaping features like fountains, statues, fences, not so much.

Just my opinion though.
RobertG12 (Arizona)
Posts: 160
Posted:
This fountain has become a sinkhole for money. Every year it fills with algae due to the heat, grass clippings and whatever it collects. Replacement pumps cost several thousands of dollars and seem to wear out every few years. You have to put a lot of chemicals to keep out the algae. This is a desert, why waste water?
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Seems to me it might be better to take up your suggestion and fill it with plants - which might be prettier to look at anyway.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Robert,
You sold me! I would send your reason list or present it at a Board meeting and see what the members think according to what you have told us. Once you show them the money, it might get some genuine interest in altering the fountains use.

Google in "Converted Fountains" Some are pretty awesome.
JohnK3 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 967
Posted:
Robert,

I'm with Mich, Donna and Shelia. And with the cost/benefit breakdown you provided, I'd venture your BOD might even have the power to do the switch on a maintenance basis, assuming the fountain is not mentioned in yor CC&Rs and your budget protocols would permit it. Though polling Membership is always a good thing.

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