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BonnieE (Illinois)
Posts: 338
Posted:
Hi!

Do any HOA Boards require the directors to sign a confidentiality statement in which they agree they will not divulge information discussed in (closed) Executive Sessions with other HOs?

And, if a Board has not required this in the past, in your opinion, should the Board make a policy establishing such a requirement before requiring the directors to sign it?

This is not in our governing docs.

I’m curious as to what other Boards require.
Thanks,
Bonnie
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
If you have free time, go for it.

But realize its not human nature. People will still talk and there isn't much you can do about it.
CharlesH9 (Michigan)
Posts: 123
Posted:
I would NOT want that as a HO or a board member. Remember the BOD is suppose to manage the affairs of where you live and confidentiality statements only create suspision in my opinion. Transparency is better, without divulging personal infomation of specific HO's.
BonnieE (Illinois)
Posts: 338
Posted:
Steve and Charles – I agree totally. It does create suspicion (several of us are suspicious as to why this is now being required). You’re right in that it is human nature that people will talk. But I am not aware of any problems with any of our directors (over our 14+ years as a HOA) divulging confidential information. So, when I learned that this is a new requirement (as of this March), I became curious as to what others do.

I am also not sure that I agree with it, as it would be difficult to enforce, and, there is no process, nor consequences should a director be “determined” to have divulged a sensitive matter. How would it be determined that a confidence was divulged; what would happen; what is defined as being confidential; etc. The more I think about it, the more I begin to conclude that it is not doable.

As to my other question - do you think a policy is needed to be introduced/adopted at a Board Meeting prior to establishing this requirement?

Thanks for your comments.
Bonnie
JaniceM1 (Georgia)
Posts: 27
Posted:
Bonnie-

The By Laws should state something about Board Standards which would cover this with out having the BOD members to sign a statement.
Not all information is priviledged information and varies from state to state as to how much is.
It sounds like you may have a problem with a board member running their mouth. ? I would act under normal business judgment and warn them about the issue (well it needs to be the board warn them) and if it happens again they need to be removed.
This needs to be taken very seriously if it is gossip, but normal discussion over issues that take place in the meeting (and yes, executive session)will be talked about (personal information shouldn't be disclosed).

Janice
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
The very definition of Executive Session requires that all attendees know that the proceedings are confidential. However, the outcome of the ES is going to be releases at some time anyway at an open meeting, so it's a matter of zipping the lip until that happens.

The presiding officer should again remind the attendees at the beginning of the ES meeting about the requirements. Violation is cause for removal from the board.

MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Bonnie,

IMO, my board has a better approach. Following is the disclaimer included in the board packet under the ES section:

"The information contained i this report is proprietary and confidential, and is the exclusive property of the XYZ Homeowner's Association. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, using, copying, distributing or otherwise disclosing this information in any manner.

"If you have received this report or any of its contents in error, please return it to the attention of the XYZ Homeowner's Assn at the following address:

"Or, please contact ABC Management Co at (phone number) and arrangements will be made to retrieve the report."

Board members are cautioned to shred the ES section material, or give it to the PM to shred, if they no longer want to keep the monthly packet.
BonnieE (Illinois)
Posts: 338
Posted:
Thank you!

Per our governing docs and state law, our only “standard” for being on the BOD is that you are a HO.

I am not aware of any issues with any of the Directors divulging confidential information. And, Susan, you make a good point in that the outcome of the topic discussed in ES will be disclosed and/or voted on at a regular Board meeting (Board meetings in IL are required to be open to all HOs). The Directors do know that info discussed in ES is confidential.

As to my other question - do you think a policy is needed to be introduced/adopted at a Board Meeting prior to establishing this requirement?

Again, thanks!
Bonnie
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
"policy"?

Sure, I'll sign anything.

What's the penalty if I don't comply and who's going to prove I didn't?
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Michelle,

How about a blank check made out to me? LOL

But, seriously, very good point!!

Bonnie,

Naturally if the board is going to adopt such a policy it should first be discussed and voted on at a board meeting. Frankly, I like the disclaimer my board uses. To require a board member to sign something to me is totally useless -- it's a "feel good" measure. Unless you're going to impose penalties (which I don't think they would have the authority to do) for violating the policy, of what good use is it really? And speaking of penalties, IMO, that would just scare most people away from signing. So, as Michelle says, what would you do about it and how would it be proven?
BonnieE (Illinois)
Posts: 338
Posted:
Good question, Michelle. And, Mary – I agree it is useless.

But the Board members signed it, so…..guess they’ll be policing themselves on this one. Although how anything could be proven is questionable as it would be: “he said, she said”.

Thanks!
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
Well, I would think that keeping the private things private falls under fiduciary duty. Such would include who said exactly what in executive session. And should also include personal financial information.

As for the "disclosure" on the packet I see that kind of thing on almost all corporate emails today. And yet, I have never heard of a single case where someone was held liable for reading something sent to them in error. The proliferation of such statements came with SOXa, but seem more like lawyer fodder to me. If someone leaves a piece of paper on a bench, I seriously doubt that anything could be done when the finder chooses to read such.

Perhaps I am still too childish as those statements would make me less likely to return said material then if the notice read something along the lines of:
"This material intended for XYZ HOA only. If found please call so and so at 555-555-1234 and they will arrange prompt pickup. Thank you."

MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Kirk,

Very true, however, by including the disclaimer the BOD is letting all know that the info is meant to be confidential. IMO, this is a better route to take than to require directors to sign a confidentiality statement that would be totally meaningless. As others have said, how would it be enforced and even proven that the vow was broken. At least my board puts the disclaimer out there -- which board members see every month. After all, isn't the intent to make certain board members are aware that they should not be leaking any confidential info to anyone who is not a board member?

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