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PeterV1 (Virginia)
Posts: 18
Posted:
I need some help understand how to define the paint colors in our HOA. Our CC&Rs state "must be finished or painted in natural browns and brown tones, or other natural earth colors approved by the Board of Directors, only, and in such a manner as not to detract from, nor mar, the natural beauty of the surroundings."

What I'm having trouble understanding is "other natural earth colors". How do you figure out just what colors this is suppose to be?

Does anyone have similar wording?

Thanks in advance for your help.
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
It is up to the Board of Directors to decide if a given color is "another natural earth color."
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
The CCRs give guidance to the general tones, now a committee must provide the details.

Each member should have a color sample of approved colors.

Off to the paint store, or hire a community planner that is versed in color selection and paint.
MikeS1
Posts: 521
Posted:
Wickipedia had a pretty solid definition of earth tones. "Earth tone is a color scheme that draws from a color palette of browns, tans, greys, greens, and some reds. The colors in an earth tone scheme are muted and flat in an emulation of the natural colors found in dirt, moss, trees and rocks. Many earth tones originate from clay earth pigments, such as umber, ochre, and sienna. Colors such as orange and blue are not considered earth tones because they are not found naturally on pieces of land even though they can be found with in nature."
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
Although i agree with Mike's Wiki definition, if i was in the HOA, i would argue that the covenant states natural earth COLORS, not earth tones.. and thus, I could paint my home GOLD (pyrite), Blue (sky, or azurite), purple (chalcopyrite), green (malachite), red (corundum, ruby, some limonites), black (coal), or orange/yellow (limonite).

But, i just like to argue.

Take the advice of everyone else: define the colors like Mike/Wiki suggests, and then get paint samples from a local store, and make a "sample book" for owners to look at and compare against. Make a couple, cause one will get taken and lost. Doing this in advance is much easier than argueing it later.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Yes, but it does initially refer to the palette in tones and they says, or other earth natural earth colors.

I think it doesn't take too much of a stretch to accept that the intent is for the muted palette. So, me liking to argue back, would go that route with you.

Plus, I never use Wikipedia for any legitimate sourcing. Maybe as a starting point, but, still.

For one thing, a specific visual aide is probably required since there is all kinds of nuance in describing colors with words.

Especially since it really can be argued that some blues, yellows and reds, even oranges, could fall into that.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
My assn's architectural committee is resp for coming up with the accepted paint colors. They update the list every few years. They have selected Dunn Edwards paint, but the selected color can be matched by any brand paint. We have 10 selections with each including a body and a trim color. Paint swatches can be viewed on line or by visiting a Dunn Edwards store. The committee will allow the member to mix and match also.
PeterV1 (Virginia)
Posts: 18
Posted:
Thanks. That is the best definition I've seen. I'll start with that and put together a selection of color chips from paint stores. Then have others review.
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
Quote:
... "must be finished or painted in natural browns and brown tones, or other natural earth colors approved by the Board of Directors, only, and in such a manner as not to detract from, nor mar, the natural beauty of the surroundings." ...

The way I would read this is that the BOD has the discretion to approve anything that is a "natural earth color." One can argue color versus tone all they want, but in the end the BOD's view is what matters. And the BOD could say they won't approve anything outside of "natural browns and brown tones."

Now if I were on the Board I would decline to make a detailed book of acceptable colors. I would instead issue guidelines and have people make submissions. I would not want to cause an owner to fail to submit the most awesome color scheme because I failed to realize how great it would make the neighborhood look while assembling the book. (But then again I am a person who would not dare make a choice in colors without consulting an additional person.)
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Peter,

Our ARC committee has a "color stick" from Sherwin Williams that we bought from them at $10.00 cost. This is the entire color selection from the company. The ARC took it apart, removing the purples, neons and very unacceptable colors, leaving behind probably 3 or 4 hundred tones of what would be "Earth Colors" which our covenants require.

When an application comes in for a repaint, the applicant has this to use as a GUIDELINE and can use any other paint brand that they want but the color must be somewhere in this color pallette. As an artist, I can tell you that earth tones is very vague if you need to put an exact description to what colors they are. That might require a visual example aka color swatches or samples.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Donna:

What a neat idea!

I'm going to add that to our to-do list!
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Peter

When all is said and done, it will be up to the BOD and/or the architectural committee to determine what "other natural earth colors" are. Most gov docs give the BOD the authority to interpret the provisions. After they pick a paint company they can determine what colors can be used and inform the members. IMO, there should be a "paint color" list instead of a member choosing any color they like and asking for approval. In an earlier message I described the procedure my assn uses.
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
Donna!!!!!!!!!!!

I also say that your association has hit a great idea. It leaves for a wide range and yet gives meaningful guidelines.

By the way, is Cranberry an earth tone? We recently had this request and I really don't know the answer. Knowing the owner I am sure it would look fine in our neighborhood. But I was at a loss for knowing if this was within the guidelines.

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