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ThomasD2 (California)
Posts: 208
Posted:
Does your homeowners association have guidelines for emailing (besides common sense?) I wrote an email to the board president and was angry she cc'd her response to everyone on the board, and a couple of other residents besides! I felt some of her response mischaracterized some of what I said and some parts were private. I wrote back a response and only one board member felt I had a point, although several were silent on the issue. On another occasion I pointed out that our ccr's (hopelessly out of date on this issue, having been written before the age of emailing) require notification on meetings be mailed or hand delivered; they are usually emailed. (I myself have no problem with this, as long as residents are given an option.) On yet another occasion I resented that I was cc'd on an email along with several residents I did not know. I requested that people ask me before forwarding my email address to others. What guidelines do you have? Should I really have any expectation of privacy when it comes to emails? It seems impossible not to expect that, in 2009, most communication will be conducted this way.
Tom
JohnK3 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 967
Posted:
Substitute snail mail for email. Same complaints? I'll guess Yes.

If so, it doesn't seem the mode of communication is your issue; rather, sounds like content and courtesy (or lack thereof) is.
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
I don't think we have guidelines on email. Our most commonly known email address goes to all Board members. At this point we don't have individual board member's email addresses published.

Now I would say that the best practices are probably beyond a good share of people serving on Boards. Yes, best practice is that people's email addresses are not viewable. But the sad fact is that many people have no clue about the BCC field in their email client.

The best advice I can give is to either get access to multiple addresses (so you can drop problematic ones when someone forwards your email off to spam central), or to get access to great filtering. Personally, I have adopted both strategies in use of my email.
ThomasD2 (California)
Posts: 208
Posted:
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Posted By KirkW1 on 05/02/2009 10:26 AM
I don't think we have guidelines on email. Our most commonly known email address goes to all Board members. At this point we don't have individual board member's email addresses published.

I think your idea of having a common email address, and not publishing individual addresses is unique and useful.-Tom
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
If you asked an officer of the corporation about an issue, I think it is appropriate that she CC the other officers, in case they'd like to pipe in.

But really, all this should be at a meeting. She should have told you to come to a meeting and present your concerns or write a letter so the entire board could respond.

About the other residents: perhaps they were on a committee that deals with your concern.

Again, conducting any board business over email should be of concern,here.

SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
If you asked an officer of the corporation about an issue, I think it is appropriate that she CC the other officers, in case they'd like to pipe in.

But really, all this should be at a meeting. She should have told you to come to a meeting and present your concerns or write a letter so the entire board could respond.

About the other residents: perhaps they were on a committee that deals with your concern.

Again, conducting any board business over email should be of concern,here.

PeterB1 (Florida)
Posts: 257
Posted:
We have created a specific email address for the Board. One member reads the emails and determines who should get the email (perhaps the entire Board). Replies are also made thru the same email address. This email account is now a repository for all communications between the Board and residents.

We also created a voicemail (GrandCentral) account which works in a similar manner.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Thomas:

If your documents state a specific manner in which your notifications must be sent, and email is not one of those, and that is the only way notification is sent (email) then they are in conflict and could be in for some problems.

Boards, as a rule, cannot force members to own, use, and maintain an email account.

Regarding the rest of your problem, there are no hard and fast email protocols, so if you write me an email, and I reply and cc everyone on my email list, whether you know them or not, there's really not much you can do about it.

It's a stupid thing to do, but I'm sure she/he has some reason for doing it.

Perhaps it was an accident.

Perhaps her bulk mail list is out of date.

Perhaps she is in C.Y.A. overkill.

Who knows? But there really isn't an HOA rule or otherwise preventing her from doing it.

And even in this day and age there should be minimal expectation of privacy in using email. First of all, do you have any clue how many computers your email passes through on the way to its destination? It's sort of like a post card, for the most part.

At any rate, it would be in everyone's best interest to refrain from using email for confidential or critical information that one doesn't want shared with the universe.

KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
The observation about notification is a good one. Our documents allow for a member to waive notification. If you have that and want to use email to save money, then it would be wise to ask people to sign a waiver that they will accept email in lieu of mail.
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Follow two simple rules whenever writing ANY e-mails

1. Write them with the knowledge that anyone, anywhere, may someday read what you wrote.

2. You can't trust anyone not to forward what you wrote.

I have a very dear friend who is also a fellow board member. On past occassions she's answered my "all board members" e-mail information with her opinion back to simply me. I've (mistakenly) written back to her with a reply such as, "Gretal, please let your opinion known to ALL board members since Dumb Dorah and Stupid Stacy will not know how you feel." (Just an example of course.) Then Gretal has taken MY e-mail and replied ON TOP of it, so everyone knows what I wrote about them.

Trust me.......I've learned from MY stupid mistakes.
AnneM2 (North Carolina)
Posts: 30
Posted:
A wise friend once advised me ... "Don't say anything in an email that you wouldn't want published on the front page of the local paper."

It is much too easy to inadvertantly hit 'reply all' or 'forward all' or to forget to erase an originating message.
ThomasD2 (California)
Posts: 208
Posted:
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Posted By SusanW1 on 05/02/2009 12:44 PM
If you asked an officer of the corporation about an issue, I think it is appropriate that she CC the other officers, in case they'd like to pipe in.

But really, all this should be at a meeting. She should have told you to come to a meeting and present your concerns or write a letter so the entire board could respond.


Several people seem to be indicating that perhaps email is entirely the wrong venue for discussions better handled at meetings. Which is enlightening. And everyone else seems to agree that one should just about always assume an email may not remain private! -Tom
MikeS1
Posts: 521
Posted:
It's a proven fact that 70% of all communication is body language. Email isn't always the best way of addressing some issues with some folks.
DorothyO (Washington)
Posts: 293
Posted:
At our annual meeting in January we put the "Use of HOA E-mail List" on the agenda, after two instances, one where someone wanted to use the list for his annual charity fundraiser, and the other where a local school had the kids annual fundraiser on-line for the first time and e-mail addresses in the hood were given out without permission. The association voted unanimously to prohibit the association e-mail list from being used for anything but association and neighborhood business. Finally, if anyone did not want to provide an e-mail address they only need to let us know and we would provide the hard copies, as we do already with a few of the elders in the neighborhood who do not use e-mail. If your neighborhood is too large to deliver in person than the U.S.P.S. is what you use.

All Board Officers and committee members addresses are available to all homeowners. Our homeowners are encouraged to contact any Board member whenever they want about any concern they have. E-mail is no different than home numbers or home addresses. I can't imagine a Board member prohibiting the e-mail address as if it is some different sort of contact information than the traditional street address and phone number.

Any e-mail that warrants Board discussion is shared with the officers only. If the homeowner does not wish this to be, it would be incumbent on that homeowner to have a good reason to keep it from the rest of the Board. It would then be incumbent on the Board officer to determine whether that is possible or not, and to make sure the homeowner understands protocol. Any information in the e-mail that is determined to need dissemination to the association is done in a formal communicant from the Board, and not as a cc:, or forward. Any problems with which the Board is dealing are kept confidential. If it is a problem concerning the whole association hard copies of the issue are distributed, along with or without an e-mail notification. Ultimately, all immediate or potentially problematic issues that cannot be solved through reasonable discourse among the parties involved, are addressed via meetings, in whatever appropriate forum the issue requires, HOA meeting, special meeting or meeting with the Board.

E-mail is a handy way to keep people informed but not a substitute for actual face-to-face conversation when addressing any issues or problems. When confidentiality is an issue it is best to talk to those involved in person. Good rule of thumb: never e-mail anything you don't mind anyone else knowing.

Dorothy

MartyS5 (Georgia)
Posts: 23
Posted:
I suggest having an email address that is not a monitored email. BCC everyone so they cannot hit "reply all." You can get pertinent information to homeowners which doesn't require a reply (i.e., dues are due on July 1). An autoreply indicates the management company is the first point of contact and provides an email address.

We made it a policy that homeowners may not use email addresses in the directory for solicitation. If someone violates this, they are removed from the email list and receive only snail mail. Interestingly, the new Board has solicited money for the mailman and a homeowner who is down on their luck.
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
11 year old thread, MartyS5.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
If I received, as the prez, an email from a homeowner re HOA business, I would do the same thing I did when I received a letter from a resident wanting to meet with me privately - I shared the letter, and or email, with al, the other Board members.

In the above case, did I respond to the homeowner? No. The process for our neighborhood is clear - if you wish to get communicate about your property, call or write or email or text - the property manager. They will assess and then forward, or propose the topic, as appropriate, to the board.

OK ... more background, the owner in question has tried, and been successful with previous prez at getting some of their assessment waived - and, then a very easy payment plan for the rest - all outside the board and property manager process.

If an owner writers, emails, texts, etc the prez, about HOA/COA/POA biz they ARE contacting the entire board. This said, there could be instances where family “internals” would not appropriate to forward or share ... I would just sanitize it to remove it - judgment call.
ThomasD2 (California)
Posts: 208
Posted:
My God do threads actually last this many years? How old is this?
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Sheesh ... got me, again!

Gah!
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
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Posted By ThomasD2 on 05/05/2020 8:59 PM
My God do threads actually last this many years? How old is this?

The forum software used on this site isn't the greatest. Besides leaving threads open forever, once a post is made it can't be deleted or edited either.

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