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LynneM (Massachusetts)
Posts: 52
Posted:
we have 5 board members to get majority vote i say 3 another member says 4. I ask this question because the newest members to the board are 3 new people, it seems that they all vote and think the same way.It's almost like they reherse before we meet. they ran on a unified ticket all there ideas are the same they tend to look out for one another and on at least 2 occassions they have met with out the 5 of us. case in point they(3) decided that we the board would meet with the committee chairs and had scheduled a meeting. I asked when was this decided because i did not recall talking about this. well the tripletts became silent.one of the 3 finally responded and said that they the 3 met a her house and talked about this. I told her i was concerned about that and did not appreciate these back room discussions and i was not acting on anything that was not agreeded by all of us.this causes bad relations with the board and i am not a good fit for this kind of thing.My term is up in october and i don't think i will seek re election.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

lYNNE,
Do your documents tell you what number is considered a "majority"? Where I come from, it would be 3 out of a 5 member Board. Meeting without the entire Board, at least being notified is considered an illegal meeting. The sad news is that 3 of them are probably considered a "quorum" by your documents.

The importance of having a proper meeting
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Please ignore the second sentence start as I pushed submit too early.
LynneM (Massachusetts)
Posts: 52
Posted:
thanks Donna
the docs do not state the majority and 3 would be considered a quorum.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
With 5 Board members and 3 being a quorum, a majority vote requires a minimum of 2 out of 3 and a maximum of 3 out of 4 or 5.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Lynne,

FYI. . .

Majority = 50% + 1
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Lynne - and your new board members need to know that they MUST conduct all board business at Board meetings or specially called meetings. They (the 3 of them) cannot meet at someone's house and make decisions.

Do you think they are unaware or did they meet and decide on purpose (keeping the other 2 out of the loop.)?

LynneM (Massachusetts)
Posts: 52
Posted:
I cannot say that that was deliberate attempt to keep us out of the loop, but the tripletts do show (to me anyway) that they feel warm an fuzzy when we are discussing issues.
But for as long as i am on the board i will speak up if this continues.
BarbaraP3 (Maryland)
Posts: 90
Posted:
To MaryA1 and Roger,

I’m confused…….and need some clarification.

Roger said that a 3 member quorum for a 5 member board, a majority vote requires a minimum of 2 votes. (and a maximum of 3 out of 4 or 5)

MaryA1 states Majority = 50% + 1. This would mean a 3 member quorum would need 1 ½ plus 1 = 2 ½ (otherwise 3)

I always thought that a 5 member board majority was 3 and a 7 member board majority was 4. But the MaryA formula it is actually 4 (3 ½) and 5 (4 ½) respectively.

Now when you get to a quorum of the board I’m even more confused. Quorum of 3 requires 2 votes to represent a 5 member board and 3 votes to represent a 7 member board???? Please help me clear the fog!

Thanks,
Barb

JamesM14 (Delaware)
Posts: 17
Posted:
Barbara

Webster defines majority as a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total Thus for a quorum of 3, a majority is 2 or more.

You cannot define majority mathematically in small numbers because people don't come in halves (though sometimes I wonder).

LeeB1 (Florida)
Posts: 8
Posted:
Where I come from the majority of five is three also. We also had the problem where two members wanted to meet with a third, and the entire Board was not notified of this meeting( it never happened- because the third member could not make it) According to our lawyer, this is illegal, as it would have been a meeting that was not posted.
GraceH (Virginia)
Posts: 224
Posted:
If I understand this correctly, any meeting of the Board members needs to be advertised?
I just heard that one of our boards has been meeting weekly. Should these meetings be posted?
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Grace,
Many States have laws that all Board meetings must be properly posted to the members and are required to be open to them. Some documents will also state that. Check with your Virginia HOA laws to see if it is a requirement of your State. In Florida, any meeting of a quorum of the Board must have a 48 hour notification to its members and must be open to them. If your Board is meeting weekly, they might be in violation of Va. laws and why the heck would they not post them.
GraceH (Virginia)
Posts: 224
Posted:
Donna,
A new Board member had suggested that they have more executive sessions because of the amounts of concerns that have been being voiced. Being that they are called executive sessions, do the meetings still fall under the same guidelines as a Board meeting?
Should this go into a new thread?
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Grace,

As a consideration to Lynne, start another thread. D.
GraceH (Virginia)
Posts: 224
Posted:
Okay, Thanks.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By BarbaraP3 on 04/27/2009 5:48 PM
To MaryA1 and Roger,

I’m confused…….and need some clarification.

Roger said that a 3 member quorum for a 5 member board, a majority vote requires a minimum of 2 votes. (and a maximum of 3 out of 4 or 5)

MaryA1 states Majority = 50% + 1. This would mean a 3 member quorum would need 1 ½ plus 1 = 2 ½ (otherwise 3)

I always thought that a 5 member board majority was 3 and a 7 member board majority was 4. But the MaryA formula it is actually 4 (3 ½) and 5 (4 ½) respectively.

Now when you get to a quorum of the board I’m even more confused. Quorum of 3 requires 2 votes to represent a 5 member board and 3 votes to represent a 7 member board???? Please help me clear the fog!

Thanks,
Barb


Barb,

It "is" confusing; you're not alone. Actually James defined it better: "Webster defines majority as a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total"; I've just always used the 50% + 1. I guess the 1/2 person is dropped when figuring the number.

The quorum for a 5-member board is 3. If only a quorum is present, a majority vote would be at least 2. The quorum for a 7-member board is 4. If only a quorum is present, a majority vote would be at least 3.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By BarbaraP3 on 04/27/2009 5:48 PM
To MaryA1 and Roger,

I’m confused…….and need some clarification.

Roger said that a 3 member quorum for a 5 member board, a majority vote requires a minimum of 2 votes. (and a maximum of 3 out of 4 or 5)

MaryA1 states Majority = 50% + 1. This would mean a 3 member quorum would need 1 ½ plus 1 = 2 ½ (otherwise 3)

I always thought that a 5 member board majority was 3 and a 7 member board majority was 4. But the MaryA formula it is actually 4 (3 ½) and 5 (4 ½) respectively.

Now when you get to a quorum of the board I’m even more confused. Quorum of 3 requires 2 votes to represent a 5 member board and 3 votes to represent a 7 member board???? Please help me clear the fog!

Thanks,
Barb


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