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Michael (Texas)
Posts: 9
Posted:
We are having our first meeting Monday to elect 3 board members to take over from the developer. We have never had a transition committee to check anything. Never hired an Engineer to check things out we were not allowed to see any finances or the books. We were told the management company would bring a copy of last years balance sheet and income statement to the meeting but the HOA is 4 years old. Is it possible at this meeting to vote to do away with the HOA instead of voting in 3 home owners as members? If so How?

We are in Dallas Texas and have 324 homes we need 60% attendance for the meeting. Our community has nothing but a wood fence around it that our dues go for and the water to water the swell and the main street which is about 50yards in length. and 4 feet wide.

Thanks
Michael
JanM (Texas)
Posts: 142
Posted:
You can start with the Tx non-profit corporation act, aka, Vernon's Tx civil statutes Article 1396-6.
JulieS (Georgia)
Posts: 412
Posted:
Check your covenants...ours states that we cannot do anything to alter our neighborhood in any way for 20 years after the HOA is turned over to the homeowners as it is still a representation of the builder. After the 20 years, we can make decisions, like folding the HOA, removing the entrance fence, closing a pool, etc.
Michael (Texas)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Thank you Jan for that information but that was way over my head and way to much information
Michael (Texas)
Posts: 9
Posted:
our covenants only say that for 5 years no increase in assessment shall be more that 10% without written approval by the builder
Michael (Texas)
Posts: 9
Posted:
What I need to know
Is it smart for us to elect board members without seeing any records of finances and money that has been spent and deed restrictions and so forth before we take over? That's what the management company is trying to get us to do. Take over and look at the books at our first meeting. Money has been going into the account now and money being spent for 4 years.
JosephW (Michigan)
Posts: 882
Posted:
If you don't take over the association you'll never know where the money is going or went. Better to take control and start getting things done right. Click on the Community Associations Network link to the right and then go to the Developer/Transition page. Pull the checklists and articles about how you should handle transition.

Also , use the search on this site with "transition". There have been some good threads about his topic.

Joe

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RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Michael, it appears you have no idea of what managing an HOA involves. You have the right to see the finacial records at any time and you should already have a Declaration of CC&Rs in each homeowner's posesion.

You can only dissolve an HOA in accordance with your Declaration and it is probably a bad idea. I'm sure your HOA is responsible for much more than the few minor items you listed. Obviously you need help. I suggest you elect homeowners to the Board, then hire a managing agent to help with the transition. Perhaps the following information can be useful. I presented this at an interview yesterday with an HOA in the process of transitioning.

One observation. Their homeowner board advised me that the Developer had just done an audit using independent auditors. However, their comment indicated to me they have insufficient reserve fund compared to very high assessments. For me this immediately raised a RED FLAG. Think about Enron and their "independent" audits. Don't just assume a Developer's "independent" audit is adequate.

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HOA TRANSITION FROM DEVELOPER CONTROL TO HOMEOWNER CONTROL
By DARCO 8/23/06

The most important year in the life of an Association is usually the first year of homeowner control. Why? Because the initial homeowner controlled Board of Directors will assume responsibility for the previous actions by the Developer controlled Board. To protect the Association and the Board a transition audit should be completed by professionals who have no relationship with the Developer. (Note: the HOA audit is technically a DRV- discovery, review and verification). The purpose of this audit is to determine if there are deficiencies which need correction. Usually problems are revealed which will need to be resolved with the Developer. DARCO can conduct this audit; and will also review with the Board of Directors the other four means of protecting them from law suits.

DARCO recommends the new Board of Directors consider the following:

Managing Agent
The Board should hire a highly qualified managing Agent who has no relationship with the Developer. The Managing Agent should be capable of performing the transition audit and provide all other management services the Board desires. DARCO has that expertise. DARCO is capable of conducting the audit. However, since the Association has been under the Developer’s control for 10 years we recommend the Board consider utilizing an independent CPA and experienced HOA attorney. DARCO can recommend and can coordinate efforts with these professionals. DARCO will secure the Association documents including those items for which we have previously provided a check list.

Financial audit
A financial audit should be completed immediately upon takeover. Depending on whether the Developer has conducted audits and has used an independent CPA, this audit may require going back up to 10 years. The extent of the audit will depend on the discrepancies found. The audit will investigate, among other things, whether payments made were valid and were an obligation of the Association rather than the Developer; and whether the Developer has paid all assessments owed and outstanding contractors, sub-contractors, and employee expenses and liabilities.

Physical audit
A physical audit of the common area elements should be done. DARCO can do the initial inspection and if serious problems are present which can not be resolved with the Developer, an experienced architect or engineer may be needed. The entire Development will be inspected for drainage, safety, and any signs of defects in design, materials, or workmanship; or variances with recorded documents. Any warranties on the condition of the property will be sought from the Developer; these warranties may be statutory, contractual, or implied by law. Warranties may be in sources such as state laws, purchase contracts, marketing materials, and written documents.

Negotiations
Problems uncovered by the transition audit will need to be negotiated with the Developer. DARCO can assist to the extent desired by the Board. Some problems may not be resolved. If so, these may require hiring an experienced HOA attorney. The attorney would notify potential defendants and attempt to negotiate a mutually satisfactory settlement. If legal negotiations fail, litigation is the last resort. Before filing a law suit the Board should weigh the probable costs of litigation against the probable benefits. Litigation tends to be time consuming and costly.
Michael (Texas)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Roger thank you so much that was info I needed and now feel better about going into the meeting with that knowledge. We have a Management company now that was hired by the developer board. I think thats been our main problem as to getting info we needed on the process of taking over. Thanks for your knowledge.

Michael
GeraldT1 (<Not Specified>)
Posts: 519
Posted:
Michael,

That you may not have any idea about running an HOA is irrelevant. Knowledge comes from experience, so if you have not done so already, offer to join the board, and a committee.

Unlike some, my purpose on discussion groups is to share information, perhaps to right some wrongs, without attaching my business card.

You obviously know something, for example, you know the word transition. Expand your vocabulary, but you've used one of the biggest, and most important words of your HOA life. You obviously care enough to join HOATalk. That's a good sign.

What concerns me however is that the info Jan provided is considered by you to be way too much information. If you are thinking of getting involved to make an impact, get used to processing a volume of information and spending a few sunny weekends holed up reading it, or at least taking the paperwork on vacation. The experience of getting involved can be an adventure that will serve you well.

Best of success!!
GeraldT1
NNJ

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