Property Management and Treasurer have asked to pay vendors who are not ours??

Has anyone questioned the PM? The Treasurer is a 'volunteer', but you are paying your PM.

Why isn't the PM being grilled about the errors? He/she would be first on my list of people to talk to about errors (not collusion).

I completely agree with the campaigning against the treasurer. Truth be told she is a total bad member.... Only a month before we know if she is not re-elected. It's truely a waiting game.

Any member has the right to express feelings about board member's performance. I'd suggest the president wear his/her 'member" hat when talking about board performance.

Making a recommendation for someone to take the job is better than bad-mouthing another person.

I support this one. I don't like the idea of doing door to door bad mouthing as you say. But the Prez is going to do what wants to do. What I do know., is that those who attend our monthly meetings ( and that even includes me as a homeowner) can see this poor sight impaired woman as struggling. She opts to do more than she can do, presents numbers that are often turned around, incorrect and erroneous. Our own company that does our reserve study, met with her and then asked to call the HOA Prez, because "they were even concerned" about this person.

Next election is weeks away or so. I plan if being re-elected to toss my hat in the ring for Treasurer...... just to save us from more errors.

You've trotted this woman out to us before, if I recall, in previous posts.

I suppose one day you all will get your way and either run her off or get her name so damaged that she's voted off.

Kudos to you in either regard, I suppose.

Although I'm sure there was probably a whole range of other options on how to deal with her without all the behind-the-back sniping, but people are people. It happens.

Mary, that's exactly what I am talking about.

There are ways to do things, then there are "ways" to do things.

The way that shouldn't be done is to do it behind her back with negative and possibly even off-track or "personal" commentary added in for good measure.

I'm just saying that I recall a rather lengthy thread about this particular treasurer before (yes, too lazy to look it up), and it just seems that some of the trajectory here with her is personality/personally biased as opposed to legitimate, critical problem solving. If my feeble memory is serving me correctly that thread was months and months ago.

Why has no one talked to this woman from the very outset? If her eyesight is failing and she's making such egregious mistakes, for the sake of the health of the HOA she should have been counseled and the board either provide her with appropriate assistance, or request her officer resignation.

She may get defensive and insist that she's okay, but it's hard to deny a solid paper trail.

None of this means she is either a bad person, or even a bad board member. She may be in denial about things, and if she "volunteers" for things that are too much for her to handle, just simply don't assign them to her and tell her up-front why. "Jeannie, we, as always, appreciate your volunteering to handle the upcoming X,Y,Z project, but, quite frankly, we do not want to place any additional burdens on your time, talent, or energy. Before you insist that you can do it, we will save you the trouble and have decided to appoint Johnny to handle it instead. In addition, we noticed you have been having some issues with the budget numbers and we have assigned Bonita to sit with you and help you sort it out. No thanks necessary! That's what teams are for!"

If she still resists, then a flat out, "No" will end the conversation.

I just don't think this situation has been handled with the best intentions or proper professional distance.

I will go back again to the title of this thread. The impression given is that the Treasurer is somehow purposely diverting HOA funds to other organization's vendors. Well, on further read, that's not exactly true. It's just a matter of competency. Or rather alleged incompetency.

If she has been that much of a problem, there is and continues to be a more professional and upfront way to handle it.

What the president (and it appears possibly other board members) are doing, to me, is neither professional nor very upstanding.

Sure, I could be wrong, as I will always qualify, I very often can be and am wrong, but still . . . for god's sake, get the poor woman some help! Don't put her on a one-way railroad.

Absolutely!

As you mentioned before, it can be "delicate," but it can be done.

There's a history of Alzhiemers (and I can't even spell it!) in my family. As well as a history of adult ADD and dyslexia.

I know I have found myself on the wrong side of a transposition or two!

But if I EVER get to the point where I'm a detriment to my organization, I would truly hope and pray that someone would be courageous enough to take me aside and explain to me what has been happening. I have anointed my husband the First Responder for that duty.

This is also where sometimes having worked in a 9-to-5 position of management comes in handy.

I've had people working with or reporting to me either on teams, or that I manage (whether I've hired them or inherited them from a previous manager) who really are nothing much more than dead wood at best, hazardous to the project or unit at worst! (In terms of making high profile mistakes and not recognizing their own limitations.)

There are so many ways to address those situations without it getting personal or causing embarrassment or damaging their name or stature within the organization.

Maybe boards should be required to do a little Human Resources training as well!