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FrancescaM (Washington)
Posts: 264
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I am not trying to be petty here.

I am thinking that perhaps someone has dealt with this on their board or has a good idea on how to process this kind of event?

Our HOA had a small issue that needed to be ironed out before our next meeting. The board on a whole decided to meet today Saturday, not to make any motions or decisions, but to review much needed information before or next meeting. This was a "working" meeting, no decisions were made just good group work... it in the end went well. It had to do with review of our current budget and providing information in regards to what our laws requrie.. we did no formulation or decision making.. purly informational only... ( Our goal was met and information is ready to go for our meeting next week for motions yay or nay..)

We had one member who is famous for not attending or participating much outside of a normal meetings come and allow the information to be shared. At the end of our meeting the man asked.. so are we NOT going to vote on this? The board said no.. he asked why not? We had to remind him this was not a scheduled meeting with a posted agenda but rather a meeting to share information needed. ( It was imperative!)

He said, "if I knew this wasn't a regular meeting I wouldn't of bothered to come". I was at a moment of weakness and muttered.. what else is new? I apologized, but his statement threw me for a loop? He openly tried to argue some points on what we were reveiwing and taking that into consideration I can see he was conducting a meeting by himself. How is it that such important info that needed to be reviewed BEFORE a meeting can be emphasized? This gentleman often will dowse on the side of the non majority and argue about 80% the board votes to move forth. Any adivce?/

MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Just curious, could the same thing not have been accomplished by mailing out (or distributing) an informational packet before the meeting?

SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
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I can understand his feeling: why attend a meeting, debate the merits of an issue, then not be able to bring it to a vote?

All this could have been done before the meeting, by info packet. And really should have. This is all the "work" of what goes on at a meeting, and needs to be done at an official gathering (i.e. meeting), where it could be wintnessed or recorded.

Sounds like you were doing Committee work.
FrancescaM (Washington)
Posts: 264
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Posted By MicheleD on 02/14/2009 5:58 PM
Just curious, could the same thing not have been accomplished by mailing out (or distributing) an informational packet before the meeting?


I don't want to go into too many details, but no, this had nothing with the late mailing of our budget. This is in regard to a special assessment that has come to fruition just the last couple of days... it's something we needed to speak about before our meeting next month. It was something we needed to see visually.. beleive me, it's hard to explain. We needed to do this and we all agreed to do this... that's the kicker. ( including the apathetic board member )
FrancescaM (Washington)
Posts: 264
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Posted By SusanW1 on 02/14/2009 6:19 PM
I can understand his feeling: why attend a meeting, debate the merits of an issue, then not be able to bring it to a vote?

All this could have been done before the meeting, by info packet. And really should have. This is all the "work" of what goes on at a meeting, and needs to be done at an official gathering (i.e. meeting), where it could be wintnessed or recorded.

Sounds like you were doing Committee work.

Yes, but this man agreed to come... he verbally agreed..
GlenL (Ohio)
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Posted By FrancescaM on 02/14/2009 3:20 PM
I am not trying to be petty here.

I'm sorry Francesca but that's exactly how your post comes off and it's normal to feel that way but you have to remember that there are all kinds of people that make up a Board and not everyone will always be on the same page as you. In any group if someone doesn't care as much as you (not you specifically Francesca but the you at large) they're uninvolved and if they care more than you, they're zealots; just like anyone on the highway who holds you up is a slowpoke and anyone who passes you is an unsafe idiot.

I've gone back and reread the threads you've started over the past couple of weeks or so and it seems you have quite a bit of problems with other members of the Board and while they may be at fault there is a 50% chance that it's you. My advice is you need to sit down and objectively examine your own actions and try to see how you present yourself to the other Board members.

I posted this a while ago and others added to my list but it seemed apropos so I thought I would re-post it here.

What Type of Board Member Are You?

As the actor Steve Carell explained about his character on the TV show The Office; "Every office has someone like Michael and if you look around and don't see them, then that means you probably are the one." The following are different personality types typically found on HOA Boards and while it is easy to see these faults in others can you see them yourself? And if you do see them do you consider them not so much a fault but as a quality? Sometimes two or more characteristics show up at different times and you should be constantly on the lookout for them to avoid becoming "that" Board Member.

The Naysayer - This person automatically shoots down any idea or proposal as unworkable. Can come up with ten reasons why something won't work but not one as to why it would.

The Penny Pincher - Will not spend money on anything because it might cause assessments to rise. Can cause significant damage from lack of maintenance and is often the reason for large special assessments.

The Drama Queen - Thrives on hysterics and inflicts fear and dread whenever they enter the room.

The Big Shot - This glory seeker will try to take full credit for collaborative efforts to impress the homeowners. This overly ambitious Board Member has never heard a good idea he couldn't pass off as his own.

The Bully - Will overpower anyone in the room and easily overpowers weak boards, rules by fear and intimidation.

The Big Picture Thinker - Can't be bothered on how to implement a new policy or procedure leaving that for others to figure out.

The Nitpicker - Micro manages and must oversee everything and as a result nothing ever gets done.

The Expert - Self proclaimed expert in one or more of these fields; parliamentary procedures, finance, construction and the law. Fills his vocabulary with impressive sounding buzzwords and
techno babble.

The Killjoy - This person is all business all of the time. Disapproves of any attempt at levity and because they are incapable of having fun they think no one else has the right to either.

The Emailer - Is addicted to the "reply all" function, this "cc" supporter clogs fellow Board Member's and Property Manager's already-overflowing inboxes with unnecessary messages. This person also marks less-than-critical emails as "high priority" and sends enormous attachments that crash unwitting recipients' computers.

The Interrupter - Can't wait to be recognized by the Board chair to speak and often initiates off topic side conversations that interrupts the Boards business.

The Repeater - Incapable of forming an original thought or opinion, just regurgitates someone else's words back when pressed for an opinion.

The Luddite - The battle cry of this Board Member is: "But that's the way we've always done it." This person believes that an electric typewriter and a touchtone phone with a carbonless notepad is cutting edge state of the art equipment that can't be improved upon.

Rose Colored Glasses - Cannot ever see anything wrong. No matter what covenant is violated thinks the offender should get a fifth or sixth chance.

Dead Wood", "Dud" or "The Sponge": just sits there with a smile on his/her face and never does or says anything. Has a list of "gonna dos" that quite never gets done, but is so sweet about his/her inadequacy/ineptness that no one dares to confront this person --- who is months behind his task. "Yup, I'm working on it" is his Battle Cry.

"The Scaredy-Cat" That's the person who is so afraid of hurting another board or association member's feelings that he always suggests a "wait and see if the problem goes away" approach (which, to me, is no approach at all), or states, "we don't want to look like Nazis", "we don't want to be on the 6:00 news"


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