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PollyD (South Carolina)
Posts: 6
Posted:
I am a board member of an HOA in SC. WE have a homeowner who has had their two lots zoned as one. The President gave them time to do this because they are neighbors and good friends. They havew not paid any lot rent for the two years it took to get the lots zoned. No vote was allowed or offered to the other homowners. The President gave perission on his own. What recourse do the rest of the homeowners have? They feel ripped off because they bought into the neighborhood with 49 lots and now it is 48. They also feel it is unfair for this homeowner to be "forgiven" their dues for two years while waiting for the lots to be zoned.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Did your president have the power to grant the combination of the lots? Or were the lots combined by the county or municipality, and a different dues amount was assessed by the board (the president can not set the dues unless that is granted in the governing documents of the association.)
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Polly,

I'm at a loss as to how this was done w/o amending the CCRs to show one less lot on the plat. Are you sure this was done legally? Also, I'm wondering where were the other board members when the Pres. was making this decision. They should be aware that all actions of the board should require a majority vote not just the approval of the Pres.
PollyD (South Carolina)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Two board members were absent, It was me and the Vice Pres and The President. While it was being discussed, I said that I didn't think it would be fair and that we shouldn't allow it on behalf of the other homeowners. Becaseu the Pres and Vice Pres thought it was Ok I was out "voted". The joining of the two lots was started by the homeowner who sent me a "plat map" that showed them joined when I went to the county website it showed two lots, what they did was take thier copy of the plat map and erase the dividing line. homeowners started to complain about it still being two lots and that they should be paying two "dues". We now have a plat map showing it as one lot from the county.
PollyD (South Carolina)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Our covenants state nothing giving the President that authority. It says nothing about being able to combine lots. It was written up to include 49 lots, now 48. No different dues amount was assessed, they just missed paying for two years becaseu everyone thought it was already a combined lot. The President told them they didn't have to apy because "They thought it was already combined, it was their lawyers fault for not filing the papers earlier."
PollyD (South Carolina)
Posts: 6
Posted:
The county combined these lots at the request of the homeowners.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Are these mobile home lots? homes?
PollyD (South Carolina)
Posts: 6
Posted:
They are homes.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
If your documents don't address prohibiting it, and if your local municipality allows for it and has combined it, I would consider it over-reaching on the HOA's part to tell me I can't combine two lots into one deeded property.

We have 3 multi-lot owners in our development.

Two have never combined their lots. They pay an assessment for each lot, and they receive one vote for each lot.

One of the multi-lot owner has combined her two lots into one. She now only pays one assessment and has only one vote.

We have no authority whatsoever in the legal aspect of combining lots. Only our local municipality does.

I can't imagine trying to prevent a homeowner from working out a legal structuring of his or her own property.
LynetteB (Texas)
Posts: 141
Posted:
We do have wording in our docs that allow members to combine lots into one, however, until the paperwork is processed and it is recorded with the county they are still multiple lots, therefore multiple dues. Our docs also state that each owner of a lot shall be responsible for the dues on that lot. So, here at least, the owner would have to pay dues on each lot until the papers were filed with the county clerk, and since our docs says "each owner of a lot shall be responsible for the dues on that lot", there is no one, no committee, or no board that can authorize a "free ride" on their dues.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Lynette,

First of all, this has nothing to do with zoning change. Zoning is when you do a physical change for use of a property. In the eyes of the original plat and layout of the developement, each lot is a UNIT OR PARCEL. I own 2 lots that are combined into 1 big lot but it is still 2 UNITS OR PARCELS. I pay property taxes for a larger lot, one which is not built on , therefore, a non dwelling lot according to the County but I still pay for 2 lots within the association.

According to the association, these are still 2 parcels or units. That means that I pay for 2 units. This is not tough to understand.It would be nice if they cut me a deal for the extra lot but this will require a change in the documents.

Imagine that there are 100 lots with the assessments and budget and expenses for the association being figured for 100 lots. Along comes a bunch of homeowners who want bigger lots and they each buy an extra lot. Now you only have 50 owners but there are still 100 parcels. All of the common area and amenities are still the same, according to the budget. So unless the expenses are reduced and your documents allow for a reduction in an undeveloped lot, you will need to pay for 2 lots--IMHO!!!
JohnK3 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 967
Posted:
I agree the double should pay for 2 lots, not one.

And I think the action of the 3 BOD members who voted is enough for the doubler to have relied on to join the lots.
Hoa801H (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1
Posted:
THanks.
NancyG3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 342
Posted:
MaryA1 - Glad to have you back. Someone asked in a forum a couple of weeks back where you were. They missed you.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
This is an old thread from 2009 but I would like to add that if they pay assessments on two lots they would also be entitled to two votes, one for each lot.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
NancyG3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 342
Posted:
Glen I didn't take note of the date.(Duh) Thanks for pointing this out to me.

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