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MelissaM4 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 27
Posted:
We have a parking situation in our community. We were set up for 2 cars per home and VERY little to no overflow. There are homeowners with 2+ cars fighting over spots. As the President I deligated a "Parking Committee" to come up with a resolution. Some want tags to hang in the windows and others want the parking stalls painted with assigned numbers.

FYI - We have tried sending out letters to homeowners reminding them of 2 spots per home and be respectful of neighbors....blah blah blah but it is not working.

I am looking for advice on what other communities are doing and how are you enforcing it?

Thank you as always!
Melissa
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
What type of community?

Condos?

Townhomes?

Individual homes?

BarbaraD6 (Florida)
Posts: 347
Posted:
I live in a townhouse community. We also allow 2 cars per home.We tried letters,decals,towing,security($100,000)and now hanging tags. All failed. Good Luck
Barbara
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
A couple of things:

INcorporate a Parking policy into your documents.

Make sure each owner gets copy of Rules, which should list actions and fines for violations.

Set up a step by step process from day of citation, then xxx days for compliance (or hours), then issue a hearing before the Board or committee.

Give fine amounts.........plus interest

State at what point this total will be sent to Lawyer for action.

Just ideas.

Parking is all about Leadership and enforcement from the Board.
They must be fair, consistant, and they must have penalties for violations.

If you have the rules and regulations in your documents or published and distributed completely, you probably will win in a court case. If you are prompt and consistant, I doubt it will take but one court case to get compliance.

Do not b hesitant about publishing your rules and actions and if you have a hearing board, make sure there actions are also published, but no names used.

If this don't work, go to search at top right of this page and plug in Parking, you will bring up a host of postings.
MikeS1
Posts: 521
Posted:
Yes, Indeed, What type of community? We have a similar situation where we just assigned 2 spaces (labeled with lot #s, IE "RSVD78"). The label is painted on the concrete curb. All the other spaces were deemed visitor. We had the curb painted with Visitor and also painted "VISITOR" on the asphault in the area just to the rear of where the rear bumper would be. That way it's pretty easy for visitors to figure out where to park. But now we have numerous small 2 and 3 bedroom townhomes (18-20ft wide) where there might be 3 to 5 adults living in the same home, so there really isn't any visitor parking. We tried to promote the idea of making the visitor parking spaces just for visitors, but that didn't sell. Then of course, you have to come up with a written definition of visitor and that's not easy. All I know is that it unfortunate that there never is any visitor parking; and both fish and visitors stink after 3 days.
MelissaM4 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 27
Posted:
We are a townhome community
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Melissa,
After the cars have been I.D'd so that you know who each owner is and how many cars they own and that they are using their own spots, then any car NOT in their correct spot, tow them. Warn them twice by letter and then tow them. Your Board can go on forever with this if you do not take a major stand on the violators. Do you have the ability to fine per your CC&Rs? Hopefully you do so letting this go on is unacceptable, especially if I came home and someone else was in my parking spot. We use a small sticker in the corner of the windshield. Visitors got paper tags with days allowed to be parked and hung them from the mirror or on the dashboard.Visitors park in "visitor" allocated spots.
MelissaM4 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 27
Posted:
Donna,

I have requested qoutes for the small static cling parking permits this morning to compare with the qoute I received on painting the parking stalls with assigned numbers.

Unfortuantly our docs do not state anything about enforcement, we will have to create this factor.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated on enforcement; best practices. I have been told that we can have the vehicles towed at the owners expense once we are private property. Once this happens once, everyone will get the hint we are not messing around anymore. Just want peace in the parking world, whew!

In regards to the window permits; do you have the homeowners unit number on the sticker? Do you have someone in the community that monitors who has a sticker and who does not? Did you request the homeowners to send in the make, model, plate info on the vehicle that received the parking permit? And did you issue the permits to garage units as well?

Thank you!
Melissa
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Melissa,

You can have the vehicles towed once they are on HOA property, probably known as common property aka/ parking lot other than the assigned individual spaces. In other words, not in your own space. You must have some wording in the documents regarding parking areas. Look that up and send it to us. Thanks.
MikeS1
Posts: 521
Posted:
Melissa - I'm confused about the reference to "private property". Usually the parking areas are "common" area and not deeded to the resident owner. The Board (as per your docs) should have a clause in there that basically says that they board has right to control and manage the common areas. (can't remember the exact language). Put together a parking policy document.

Contact some tow companies who specilize in impounds. They frequently will pay for your hang tags, pay for your stickers, administrate the program, monitor the parking, and establish a parking agreement with the tow company so that they can automatically tow under certain conditions.
MikeS1
Posts: 521
Posted:
The stickers or hang tags can be sequentially numbered so that you can keep track of who is who.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Someone, straighten me out. All I have seen posted by Melissa is hers is a townhouse community, other post seem about HOA's, I know they could be the same, also know some townhouse are condos. Questions have been asked to clairfy this, did I miss that also. Is the common or public area involved? Are there streets involved, who owns (maintains) them. Is the local police involved in any way. Is there any records of the Board or developer or whoever ruling or taken any action about this parking problem?
MikeS1
Posts: 521
Posted:
Robert - Don't you love the fact that most buider/developers are too afraid to broach the subject of parking and establish rules. Having worked for builders in the past over 12 years, I've always heard them say to the newly formed board.. "After we (the developer) leave and turn over control, you all can decide on how you want to handle parking. IE- whether or not you to assign 1 or 2 spaces or what). Typical?
MikeS1
Posts: 521
Posted:
Robert - Don't you love the fact that most buider/developers are too afraid to broach the subject of parking and establish rules. Having worked for builders in the past over 12 years, I've always heard them say to the newly formed board.. "After we (the developer) leave and turn over control, you all can decide on how you want to handle parking. IE- whether or not you to assign 1 or 2 spaces or what). Typical?
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Mike, I am glad this posted twice, it needs to be said twice. And this goes all the way from the smallest 4 unit condo to an HOA containing thousands of units. When build out, or before occurs, parking is a big issue, even in the planning stage. I believe it also goes to the county or city planners and they know parking is not going to be adequate when they plat the development, many times. They figure such figures as 1 and 1/2 parking space per unit. What the hell does that mean? It means trouble down the line. Our complex of condos has underground parking. We have 65 units, over 27 years you can imagine what has happened, so now, they flip the other way and say from now on, there will be only one space per unit, all others will be guest parking. All decreed from an absentee board. So we have one bedroom places with 1 space and three bedroom units with 1 space, all the while the 3 bedroom is being assessed an apportioned share, which means they are paying more for their one space than the one bedroom. Then you add God only knows how many renter cars descend on the place during season and there is NO available parking for the three bedroom guy that is paying the big bucks.

And I consider,from reading some of these posts, that we are lucky.

The developer is a Bottom Line Guy, and he should be watched like a hawk. I do not understand how an association can sit at the table and take some of this stuff from the developer. They always have to consider costs, and if they can cut down on the number of parking spaces they will. What does a parking space cost to plan for and build these days.....a lot.
PollyD (South Carolina)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Melissa,
In our bylaws it is stated that any violations that are not resolved by the date allowed that the HOA board reserves the right to fix, repair, REMOVE, etc. at the cost of the homeowner. If they are not adhering to the rules you may want to consider having them towed at owners expense. I would first try the tags and colored stalls first and see if that would be any easy fix first. Hope this helps
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
aha,
Another SC poster. Make sure you root around in SC Lawyer link, this page on left highlighted in Yellow and also be aware there is new proposed legislation in State House to establish an HOA statute and do some other tweaking of condo statute. Check link as I suggested and use link off that site to SC legislation.
ClydeC (South Carolina)
Posts: 3
Posted:
I recently purchased a condo and need parking decal. I have no problem giving them drivers license and reg. Now they want to know if i'm a resident of the state and want my state tax form. The hoa says it's the law. I realize you need to change your residency when you nove. But why do they need tge info?
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Tell them you just moved from Missouri and ask them to show you the law or cite the code so you can look it up. Bottom line - without the info they are requesting, can you park there without being towed while you fight it out?

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Melissa

Please give us more information as to the existing parking conditions as in what does one get with the townhouse. Driveway, garage, parking spot, etc.

If parking spots only then number two spots per unit and let the spot owner figure how to deal with cars in their spot. Let them call a tow truck. It is not an association issue. The association is not the parking police.

Towing can be a legal bag of worms. It can make for some nasty situations. Towing should be avoided at all costs.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By RobertR1 on 02/12/2009 12:35 PM
aha,
Another SC poster. Make sure you root around in SC Lawyer link, this page on left highlighted in Yellow and also be aware there is new proposed legislation in State House to establish an HOA statute and do some other tweaking of condo statute. Check link as I suggested and use link off that site to SC legislation.

To add to what Robert said.

SC does have The SC Horizontal Property Act that does cover multi-unit high rise associations or as commonly called, Condos. This act does not cover townhome nor standalone home associations.

There has been a proposal for an act to cover townhomes and standalone homes (HOA's) stalled in the SC for the last 4-5 years. It is not expected to see the light of day. I for one work to keep it stalled. I do not want politicians and bureaucrats that know little to nothing about the realities of the situation making laws and controlling associations.

Hope this helps.

GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
John this is an old post from 2009, it was reactivated by Clyde who is having this problem:
Quote:
Posted By ClydeC on 08/25/2013 3:21 PM
I recently purchased a condo and need parking decal. I have no problem giving them drivers license and reg. Now they want to know if i'm a resident of the state and want my state tax form. The hoa says it's the law. I realize you need to change your residency when you nove. But why do they need tge info?


Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By GlenL on 08/26/2013 12:12 PM
John this is an old post from 2009, it was reactivated by Clyde who is having this problem:
Posted By ClydeC on 08/25/2013 3:21 PM
I recently purchased a condo and need parking decal. I have no problem giving them drivers license and reg. Now they want to know if i'm a resident of the state and want my state tax form. The hoa says it's the law. I realize you need to change your residency when you nove. But why do they need tge info?



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