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GeorgerwilliamsW (Indiana)
Posts: 975
Posted:
We all gotta have a sense of humor and not take ourselves too seriously. I was alerted to this by an intern in the Legislative Services section yesterday.

Click below to see all 10 of the strips by Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist Mike Peters for his nationally syndicated Mother Goose and Grimm newspaper comic strip in Bill Vorgin's "Side Streets" blog on the Colorado Springs Gazette website.


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    "Peters said the HOA-themed strips generated a lot of feedback from readers sharing their stories.

    "I'm hearing from a lot of people who are saying these strips are dead on," he said. "It's funny — I've had no one saying ‘How dare you.' That tells me something."
DJ1 (Ontario)
Posts: 798
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"Shred everything" ... hehehe. Assumes there are records. Double hehehe
GeorgerwilliamsW (Indiana)
Posts: 975
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Posted By DJ1 on 02/10/2009 10:03 AM
"Shred everything" ... hehehe. Assumes there are records. Double hehehe
That was my first choice for posting, but I thought it would generate too much controversy--so close to home. Heheheheheh is right. . . .
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
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I'm confused as to why you would consider ANY of them "controversial" on this site?

I'm guessing you presume that there are some of us here who operate like that or who aren't aware that there are HOAs who do?

You really do have a skewed view of the posters on this site, don't you?

I spent most of my career as an executive and a director in corporate America.

Would that mean I don't find "Dilbert" funny?!

Odd.
DJ1 (Ontario)
Posts: 798
Posted:
The commentary that went with the tunes adds some perspective Michele. In particular I had the benefit of seeing this 'disclaimer' that went with them,

"But before you post an anti-HOA rant on the comment section, relax.

These are scenarios created by Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist Mike Peters for his nationally syndicated "Mother Goose and Grimm" newspaper comic strip."

These are extreme and likely would never occur,...then again...there was that Prez that hired the helicopter!

Full commentary,

"Homeowners associations towing away cars over unpaid dues. An HOA president engaging in illegal wiretaps of his neighbors.

Homeowners being punished for their grass being one-eighth of an inch too long. Dues going up so the HOA president can build a fountain.

These could be the latest horror stories from Colorado Springs' covenant-controlled neighborhoods. But before you post an anti-HOA rant on the comment section, relax.

These are scenarios created by Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist Mike Peters for his nationally syndicated "Mother Goose and Grimm" newspaper comic strip.

For two weeks, Peters looked at HOAs from the perspective of his canine character, Grimm, and put a satirical spin on life in HOA neighborhoods. (Peters also managed to slip in clever riffs on George W. Bush along the way.)

The strips are a biting commentary on HOAs and the people who run them, and they give voice to questions and complaints raised regularly in neighborhoods across the country.

Reading them was like reading a regular installment of "Side Streets" — only the strips were much funnier.

Maybe you saw them. They ran daily the past two weeks in The Gazette. If not, go to my Side Streets blog and check them out.

In the HOA-themed strips, Grimm is elected president of his HOA and immediately goes about enforcing covenants from his unique canine perspective.

In three panels, Peters manages to show how some HOAs abuse their authority.

In one strip, Grimm uses surveillance equipment to eavesdrop on his neighbors. In another, he raises dues for his pet project - a fountain in the shape of a bidet. In yet another, he mocks HOA officers who fine residents for overgrown grass.

You might assume Peters has had bad experiences with HOAs and is getting even. Not so.

"Actually, my wife was the president of the homeowners association in our old neighborhood in Sarasota," Peters said in a phone interview last week from his Florida home. "And I live under a homeowners association now - although I miss all their meetings."

Peters said he recognizes that HOAs with reasonable covenants and run by reasonable people do a lot of good.

"Ours in Sarasota tried to make sure that homes were built with proper drainage so we didn't have flooding problems, which is a big issue in Florida," Peters said. "Our HOA was wonderful."

So what inspired the HOA-themed strips?

"It struck me that all my friends who belong to homeowners associations always gripe about them," Peters said. "And, often, rightly so. I see the problems."

It bothers him, for example, that many HOAs prevent residents from putting political signs in their yards.

"People who become presidents of homeowners associations can be good dictators or bad dictators," Peters said. "They can do anything they want, as long as they have the votes. And no one really knows if anything they are doing is legal."

Peters said the HOA-themed strips generated a lot of feedback from readers sharing their stories.

"I'm hearing from a lot of people who are saying these strips are dead on," he said. "It's funny — I've had no one saying ‘How dare you.' That tells me something."
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Another point that this strip proves is the apathy of the owners. They are so clueless about the going-ons that they elected a dog.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
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Posted By GeorgerwilliamsW on 02/10/2009 1:31 PM
Posted By DJ1 on 02/10/2009 10:03 AM
"Shred everything" ... hehehe. Assumes there are records. Double hehehe
That was my first choice for posting, but I thought it would generate too much controversy--so close to home. Heheheheheh is right. . . .

DJ, I swear, am I paranoid, or are you really out to continually "tag" me! (or both! )

My comments weren't directed at the creator of the comics. I think if you read my post again, you'll see that I do have the ability to not only laugh at myself but at the target de jour for comic strips in general.

So. . . I'm right there with you on this one; it's you, I think, who are not quite "there" with me. . .
DJ1 (Ontario)
Posts: 798
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Michele, note I posted here first so I am not stalking you (tag)...even with the offer for beer...and wings. Perhaps the same type of threads attract both our interest. I don't read them all to find you, hehehe.

The cartoons view HOA's in a negative light therefore I thought the commentary that went along with them was relevant since it did emphasize they aren't real examples.

As far as why they may be controversial....they ARE posted on a site deemed to be a 'positive place for community asssociation leaders to share ideas and learn' and not everyone may have a sense of humour if they didn't understand the comics were just poking fun at HOA's.

I found equally funny AnneD's comments about owner apathy resulted in a DOG being elected. I think the dog was elected cause he stacked the deck with his dog friends. This one may actually be closer to the truth with the reports we've seen posted with vote/proxy tampering.

Honestly, I just thought the commentary should go with them.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
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Oh, I agree, the commentary was great.

That wasn't what I was referring to! I never have an issue with satire and comedy. It was the presumption by the OP that we somehow don't have the ability to fairly assess satire and comedy.

Oh, and I was just commenting on the habit you have of directly addressing me in your posts!

I get tickled.

DJ1 (Ontario)
Posts: 798
Posted:
Tickled RED I hope.
JackE1 (Indiana)
Posts: 26
Posted:
I'm new here and I don't want to step on anyone's toes but isn't posting something like the cartoon some type of copyright violation? Not criticizing just trying to learn.
GeorgerwilliamsW (Indiana)
Posts: 975
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Posted By JackE1 on 02/11/2009 10:23 AM
I'm new here and I don't want to step on anyone's toes but isn't posting something like the cartoon some type of copyright violation? Not criticizing just trying to learn.
No, Jack. It is less than 10 percent of the body of work (of the Side Streets blog, and it is used to direct the reader to the original work on the web.
BarbaraD6 (Florida)
Posts: 347
Posted:
My fellow board member and I couldn't stop laughing. HOW TRUE THIS IS!!!
Barbara
EllenS1 (Florida)
Posts: 1,148
Posted:
Anna.

Our hoa owners are so apathetic we can't even get their dogs to run..we asked the dogs to bark if they would run but everything was silent..no barks...we are now looking to see if any cats will meow and step up to the plate. If this fails we may be forced to go to ferrets.
DJ1 (Ontario)
Posts: 798
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What do ferrets Say?
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
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Posted By DJ1 on 02/13/2009 10:29 PM
What do ferrets Say?

Well, they don't really say a whole lot, except when you're talking about snakes, and then you can't shut them up.

But I still wouldn't want one to be treasurer. I understand they have impulse control issues. . . .



AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Michelle you are TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!
EllenS1 (Florida)
Posts: 1,148
Posted:
Michele,

Actually lack of impulse control by the ferret board members may be a good thing..then they just may attack the dogs and cats that refused to serve and come to meetings with nothing but complants. Wouldn't we all just love to do that?

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