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GeorgerwilliamsW (Indiana)
Posts: 975
Posted:
With great fear of my motives being misconstrued I offer the following from the newspaper Sunday for our edification and bemusement:

    DEAR MISS MANNERS: At a condo association meeting consisting of about 60 people, there was a head table with six people, facing about six rows of tables, about 5 feet away. In the front row were two ladies — not sitting next to each other — doing their needlework.

    Is it proper to do needlework while at an event such as this? I noticed that the speakers were distracted (and so was I) by their movements. With them reading the directions and rearranging their work, we couldn’t help but turn their way to see what was going on. I say it is rude.

      GENTLE READER: But what if they don’t have hand-held devices that enable them to check their e-mail, text message and play games while the committee is droning on?

      Not that Miss Manners condones failing to pay attention at meetings, or rather, failing to look as if one is paying attention. She merely wants to make the point that there are worse distractions available.


SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
I can't believe how rude some people are when others give a report. They get up, talk to each other, interrupt, text, talk on phones, etc. , including some Board members!!

Someone doing needlepoint would be welcomed. At least they are listening!!
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

George,
This is amusing as you said but as Susan pointed out, I have seen worse. At least the needles were quiet. Some think that it is okay to lean into each other and have continuing conversations, getting louder as others join in. It is just an example of the rudeness of our society. Gosh, even the President had to call someone on their cell ringing.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
What gets me are the people who bring their kids to the meeting and let them yak (as kids do) and run around the room while we're trying to conduct a meeting. And we've had people answer cell phones in the middle of the meeting and proceed to have a conversation.


If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Trust me, your motives are never misconstrued, "George."

It's cute, I suppose.

But hardly noteworthy.

Needlework is making a resurgence with not only women but men these days.

I find it heartening that so many people were at the meeting.

Points for the condo association!
GordonD1 (California)
Posts: 131
Posted:
I can not imagine someone being distracted because two ladies are doing needlework on a board meeting. They are worse distractions.

MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By GordonD1 on 02/10/2009 1:44 PM
I can not imagine someone being distracted because two ladies are doing needlework on a board meeting. They are worse distractions.


Ditto, Gordon.

This is just another attempt to "poke" . . .
JackE1 (Indiana)
Posts: 26
Posted:
I can see it now; next to the red circle with a slash through a cigarette for no smoking and red circle with a slash through a revolver for no guns we now must post a red circle with a slash through a needlepoint needle.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Jack,

You forgot cell phones, which I believe would be more of a detraction than doing needlework. I'm an avid needleworker; I can even do it while watching TV and it doesn't distract my husband. Don't know why the board members should be distracted with this unless they are "bored" members!
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MaryA1 on 02/11/2009 1:47 PM
Jack,

You forgot cell phones, which I believe would be more of a detraction than doing needlework. I'm an avid needleworker; I can even do it while watching TV and it doesn't distract my husband. Don't know why the board members should be distracted with this unless they are "bored" members!


AnneH2 (Florida)
Posts: 82
Posted:
I don't think that sharp objects such as knitting needles have any place in an HOA meeting.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Anne,

I think you forgot to insert a smilie face! LOL Sure wish I knew how to insert Michele's LOL!!!!

BTW, by "needlework" (which I do a lot of!!) I took that to mean any type of embroidery and counted x-stitch. Crocheting (which I also do a lot of!!) and knitting are usually referred to by those names.
AnneM2 (North Carolina)
Posts: 30
Posted:
I would gladly trade some of our shouters for some of your needleworkers. If it is a distraction it is certainly a benign one.
DJ1 (Ontario)
Posts: 798
Posted:
Darn, I was hoping to post before Michele and reassure George she and I are busy repainting the red shed....purple!

I'm with Mary on the appropriateness of those dangerous needles. My wife just picked up some used ones at Value Village...they're made of bamboo. Ever had bamboo shoved under your fingernails..ouch!

GeorgerwilliamsW (Indiana)
Posts: 975
Posted:
Perhaps, a board of directors should contract with the Transportation Security Agency to provide full body scans and to confiscate knitting needles, sharp pencils, nail clippers, hand lotion and other such contraband prior to boarding, oops! entering the meeting room.
    "The machines use electromagnetic waves to create pictures of energy reflected off people. The metallic-looking images show outlines of private body parts and blur passengers' faces. Two Transportation Security Administration (TSA) screeners in a closed room near the checkpoint view the images on computer monitors and relay information on radio headsets to checkpoint screeners."
Tulsa passengers try out TSA's full-body scanners
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2009-02-19-airport-scanners_N.htm
JackieB (California)
Posts: 198
Posted:
reading this has brought a few Friday laughs. But the real question is how
did we make it this far as a society??
Jackie
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
One solution would be to purchase and import a cell phone jamming device to stop the phone calls. Another solution without the legal problems is to stop the meeting and wait for the person to notice. If everyone turned and stared, the person would at least leave the room as they should have.

Unfortunately, it is a simple fact that some people's employers have learned to enjoy keeping the people on a 24 hour leash. Also unfortunately some people think that if the have the ability to answer the phone they have a moral obligation to answer the phone.
DorothyO (Washington)
Posts: 293
Posted:
Having just joined this site, and already applied what I have gleaned from the numerous learned members, I was browsing to see what other type of topics had been discussed,and came across this one.

I've lived in this development for six years, and started my third term as President in January. I've attended every annual meeting. I have never seen, and would be shocked to see one of my neighbors knitting, texting, talking, goofing off, letting the kids run wild, or any other inconsiderate, disrespectful and selfish behavior. Everybody who actually shows up, shows up because they are interested in their neighborhood. Would they rather be somewhere else? Oh, yeah.

Multi-tasking is so yesterday. No, wait. Multi-tasking is so today! Yesterday we actually had manners. So, the relativism of "there are a lot worse distractions," quite misses the point doesn't it? It's not about comparing distractions. It's about honoring the social contract. Just remember the next time you are trying to talk to your kid and she is making no eye contact, there is no verbal exchange and you are trying to communicate with her while she's texting, watching t.v., or flat-out ignoring you. If this is okay with you, than break out those needles.

Dorothy
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Dorothy - I really do agree with you. I re-read the original post. BOARD members should be concentrating on the meeting - nothing else.

Break out the Ritalin.

MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
I find nothing rude or bad mannerly about a resident knitting or crocheting during a board meeting.

But I guess that's just me.
JohnK3 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 967
Posted:
Break out the Scotch.

But that's just us and none of the guys are knitters.
DorothyO (Washington)
Posts: 293
Posted:
There's that Scotch guy again.

Alas, it is clear we are forever gone from the days of the great orators, filling the halls, where truly common folk, in the non-pejorative sense of the word, would dress in their Sunday best, and, of their own volition, sit for two, three HOURS just to hear what someone had to say. No Power Point. No cell phones. No undivided attention. No knitting needles.

There is a certain sense of class when one's attention is focused on the speaker and only the speaker, whether it is a Board, a friend or a child. One of my favorite book titles is, "Don't Just Do Something, Sit There!"

So, while I concede we all learn differently, to those who must be doing something all the time, think about your neighbor, or your co-worker or anyone other than yourself who may not be able to concentrate while the klicking of the needles, or the tapping of the keys, next to her is piercing her brain. If it doesn't bother you, but you know it may bother someone else it should be a very easy thing to put aside for the common good for one little ole' hour, yes?

Dorothy
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
um.

No.

I simply disagree.

But then, it could be a generational thing.

JohnK3 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 967
Posted:
Dorothy writes:

>>>There's that Scotch guy again.<<<

Actually, my anscestors hailed from county Wexford on the Emerald Isle.

Scotch is a rare treat. Irish is forever.
DorothyO (Washington)
Posts: 293
Posted:
As mine from the County Cork - always a Southern girl at heart. Remember, what's the sense in being Irish if you can't get your heart broke. That's what the Scotch is for. Ta!

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