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RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Me, I can live with it.

Part of agenda announcement for Board Meeting on 17 Jan (today)

Sometime on 16 Jan a meeting was called by the Board president and a meeting of the Board members was held in private, went on for several hours.

Today, I attended this regular announced meeting of the Board.

The meeting was called, et, etc, and the first comment made by the president was that he wanted to discuss the "Executive Session" that was on the written announced agenda for today. He decided it would facilitate things if they got it out of the way before todays meeting. A Board member then said the executive meeting did not result in a vote and no business was conducted.

Then the meeting began the agenda as written.

Item XVI. Executive session - Board of Directors and Regime Manager Only.
(a) Owner Survey
(b) Owner participation
(c) Owner Complaints
(d) Annual Meeting plans

Now I can guess who (b) and (c) concern. But no matter, I just wonder what the reaction to this is on this site and would you all comment on what this can/doesn't mean for the future, and does this closing of the meeting today set precedence to allow future acts like this.

MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Soo....let me get this clarification. . .

You're saying that the board held an Executive Session that covered those topics?!

DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Robert,
I too am a little confused. Why was the Executive session on the agenda when it was held yesterday and the regular meeting is today? Are Boards allowed to vote in E.S? What are the meeting requirements for So. Carolina? Are they breaking the HOA LAws on meetings?
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Robert,

I, too, am a bit confused. If the executive session was discussed in the open meeting it really wasn't an executive session. Whether or not a vote can be taken in an executive session has to do with the state law, if there is one. I would be surprised an executive session is discussed in your bylaws.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Is this a listing of the items covered at the ES?
If so, they are hardly of ES "grade"

DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Susan,
Thats a good observation. Some State laws and Statutes are pretty tight on what is allowed in ES and these are certainly not of that type, IMHO!! Robert needs to clear this up for us.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
To all, thank you.

I can not offer any explanation or justification for any of this. Everything I posed happened as I said and was reported as I said. Does it conflict with our governing documents, it does to my interpertation, does it violate ES laws for SC. It does to me. Does it make a difference? Now I get fuzzy. I know the history here, I know the intent of our new majority on the Board. I think they are trying to make the best of the situation. I believe they were not responsible for the way it was done , but did enter in. I believe one of the items on the ES concerned some sort of proposed censorship towards me, I believe they defended me. As I said, I am not privy to what went on in ES, but I am also not blind to hints and comments made.

So, does it matter, we sit out here on the tip of an island, and are trying to protect our investment and live a comfortable life. Some few of us live here full time and realize this requires hard work. We are faced, as many associations are, with absentee owners that believe they know how it is to live here. They don't. Even our manager allows conditions to exist and enforcement to be lax or non-existant because they percieve different than the 24/7 people. Owners that rent are this way, our president is this way and will tell you if asked , that they would not tolerate some things that are ignored here at their home and see nothing wrong in being very blunt that here it, is different. Ask them if they would want the general public to treaspass on their property. Their answer is, "of course not". But yet past boards have put out rules for owners that observe this kind of behavior, "Let it go", they state. Honest, I am telling the truth.

But back to does it matter about the disregard for protocol? I ask again, does it?
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Robert, I'm going to take a guess, then, since I don't notice where you've clarified it, but apparently the list items above were the agenda/topic items for the Executive Session.

I will say then, for the record, that they are mistaken that they did not conduct any business.

They may not have taken a vote, but they clearly had a quite lengthy business discussion.

They wouldn't necessarily need a formal vote.

But like you said, not much you can do about it except to know for yourself, and get confirmation from others (like us) who can't do anything about it either.

For the record, I think they are out of line for even attempting to bring up a censor discussion. From what I can glean, it appears the only reason they didn't "vote" on anything is because they (the ones who wanted to end up with an actionable item) realized from the (business) discussion that they wouldn't have the votes for it.

tsk tsk tsk on them.

Sorry to hear you have to work with and deal with such numbn*tz.

RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Miochele,
Oh I bring some things on myself, but to the contrary, I really think we have turned a corner and in a couple months vast improvements will be made. Going to cost but those handling it now are pretty sharp and with a couple new selections, come voting day when two go off, we will be in good shape. Not that they will ever become the students of the documents some of you all are. They have no interest in that kind of devotion I am sure. But to be CLEAR, those item I posted came right off the Agenda schedule for the 17 Jan Board agenda notice that was put out several days ago.

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