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BuddyJ (Maryland)
Posts: 37
Posted:
Hello, I have a question about the Officers and the Board of Directors in our Association. We have always had 4 elected officers (annually) operating our HOA. Two of us have held various positions for the past 5 years because we never have enough people willing to accept a position in the HOA.

We have never elected a Board of Directors, so now there is a neighbor now who is threatening a law suit if we do not abide to our By Laws by electing a Board of Directors.

For the Board of Directors, our By Laws state:

SECTION 1. Number. The affairs of this Association shall be managed by a Board of at least three (3)
directors, who need not be members of the Association.
SECTION 2. Term of Office. At the first annual meeting the members shall elect one director for a term of
one (1) year, one director for a term of two (2) years, and one director for a term of three (3) years; and at each
annual meeting thereafter the members shall elect one director for a term of three (3) years.

For the HOA Officers our By Laws state:

SECTION 1. Enumeration of Officers. The officers of this Association shall be a President and Vice
President, who shall at times be members of the Board of Directors, a Secretary, and a Treasurer, and such other
officers as the Board may from time to time by resolution create.
SECTION 2. Election of Officers. The election of officers shall take place at the first meeting of the Board
of Directors following each annual meeting of the members.
SECTION 3. Term. The officers of this Association shall be elected annually by the Board and each shall
hold office for one (1) year or until his successor is elected and has qualified, ...

Thank you for any suggestions you may have.
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Hi Buddy and welcome!

This is what you wrote: "We have always had 4 elected officers (annually) operating our HOA. Two of us have held various positions for the past 5 years because we never have enough people willing to accept a position in the HOA.

We have never elected a Board of Directors, so now there is a neighbor now who is threatening a law suit if we do not abide to our By Laws by electing a Board of Directors."

In the first paragraph you state that you've always had four "elected officers". In the next paragraph you state you have "never elected a Board of Directors."

Have you ever had a meeting to decide exactly how many directors you're going to have on your board? (By the way--it's never a good idea to have an even number of board members.)

So what is the problem? After you decide how many people your board should consist of (according to you it must be at least three) just have an election! There may be others who wish to run for a seat on the Board and were never given the opportunity to do so. Maybe this is why they see a problem. Yes, you should have an election.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Buddy,
What part of Maryland, just curious, I used to live there.

Anna is barely scratching the surface of the questions you raise, so answer her first.
Then think about what you documents say. If you are saying the Directors and the Officers are different animals, they aren't. Interpret your docs that way.

Your documents are not very clear on some points but common sense ought to get you through them. Those who post here regular are always befuddled when we read a post like yours. Who did the transition between developer and owners? Until transition you are not an HOA under the documents you cite, unless and usually there is special language in them to assure the developer is taking care of his business before your business. You need a strong course in the operation of an HOA. Plenty of stuff on the net and on the left of this page is an AD by CAN. Lot of free basic fundamental stuff there. But feel free to look anywhere and feel free to post here and feel free to walk down the street and talk to any local HOA near you. They will offer defferent kinds of help. DO NOT dig a hole you can't get out of and that uisually means hiring a good HOA lawyer to guide you. it don't have to cost an arm and a leg to seek advice.

Also, if it helps and you are concerned about the language you posted in your docs about the number of total officer you may have, I bet if you look you will find the BOARD can appoint members to serve as Officers and they will not be on the Board. The owners elect the Board, the Board elects the president, The Board can appoint officers that are not Board members if your documents allow.

The President answers to the Board, the Board answers to the owners.
BuddyJ (Maryland)
Posts: 37
Posted:
Thanks for your reply. We plan to have an election, but it's preferred that we do this at our annual meeting in April. Meanwhile, the President & Vice-President can be acting board members, because this is written in our By Laws.
Meanwhile, we are getting pressure from one owner to have a membership meeting immediately and elect the Board of Directors. Then these Board of Directors will chose the Officers.
Does this make sense?
BuddyJ (Maryland)
Posts: 37
Posted:
Robert,
This is in West Ocean City. There are 4 developments built by the same developer, so I believe our By Laws are all very similar. It is my understanding that all of these communities have elections only for the officers so there are not 3 Board of Directors too. In our last 3 annual meetings, we had trouble finding enough interested owners to fill the officer positions.
We did budget some money for legal fees so we may still seek advice from a good HOA lawyer.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
BuddyJ,
Well my friend, you are a puzzlement. I have no idea what your motivation is. You can just about walk across the street to maybe clarify your problem and you procrastinate and hunker down and let all this go on around you and finally declare you should get a good HOA lawyer. You have the money for this but somehow it is comforting to be in the dark for some unknown reason.

Hire the lawyer and I venture to say you will find you have Boardmembers and Officers all jumbled up. If you do indeed have Board members and officers, their formation and their function will be in your documents. However, I honestly think you ALL need to get a better grip on what you all are doing or trying to do. Nothing beats hard work and your documents are either the key or your problem. You need to be able to identify which and that means understanding both.
If your documents are close to your kin development, check them all out and find out which is best and why. It's a hard road but it will either eat you all up or you will tame the tiger.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Buddy,

I think your bylaws are written the same as those of many other HOAs. The directors are elected by the members at the annual meeting. THey, in turn, "elect" the officers from among themselves. The individuals serving now have been duly elected by the members so there is no reason for them to resign. All the board has to do is state that an error was made in the past in electing officers. It should have been stated the members were electing directors. I think those members who are complaining about the lack of a BOD do not understand that the BOD and the officers are the same people. I think they are thinking something is missing from the operation of the HOA, when, in fact, that is not the case. Wait until the annual meeting in April, at which time the slate of candidates will be for the election of directors. Since your bylaws say the BOD shall be comprised of "at least 3 members", I interpret that to mean the BOD can decide to enlarge the board if they wish. I would recommend a 5-member board; it's not a good idea to have an even number. With 5 members you will have 4 holding an officer position and the remaining board member is normally referred to as a "Board member at-large". Make certain the board members serve staggered terms as outlined in the bylaws. Each year, after the annual meeting, the board then decides which board members will hold each officer position, as those positions are for one year only.
BuddyJ (Maryland)
Posts: 37
Posted:
Mary,
Thank you very much for your reply. The information you provided is very clear, so we should now be in good shape at our next annual meeting election.
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
As a note, the membership does not elect the officers directly. The membership elects the members of the BOD. The members of the BOD elect who will hold what officer position.

Typically, you only have to have three officer positions filled, though you can often combine two of those making only two officers. You must have a president and you normally must have a secretary and a treasurer. It is not unheard of to combine the later two into secretary/treasurer position.

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